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Welsh Conservatives Debate: Employment
This reminds me of my university days: I'd say something, and then, 'No, actually, Hefin, you’re wrong.' Well, the point was the economic investment that happened during the later stages of the UK Labour Government was exactly that, and there weren't, under…
, Plenary
Welsh Conservatives Debate: Employment
I don't mind a bit of heckling, Dirprwy Lywydd. I don't mind. It was David Cameron and George Osborne in 2010—. And Tom Giffard mentions basic economics; well, you've got to pick a side in this, because, for every problem, there's a different policy solution…
, Plenary
Welsh Conservatives Debate: Employment
Well, this is marching to the sound of gunfire, isn't it? The Chamber is packed with Tories who are talking—. They're the ones talking down the economy. Everything that was said was entirely negative. In spite of Tom Giffard saying that it's Labour talking…
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Topical Questions
I was heckling Cefin. [Laughter.]
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Yes. I think Nerys answered, and Jamie answered, really well. I think it just reflects where we are with this at this point in time, and we need to find a way through.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
The students. It's a tough question.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Well, there's another group who could be paying for it, isn't there?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Jamie might have a view on it, and also Careers Wales as well. And that's my last question, Chair. I'll stop then.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. And finally, lastly on that, this isn't helped either by the fact that there are very few degree apprenticeship programmes available. And they're never going to be available if they're continually reliant on Welsh Government funding. What other options…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Would Careers Wales have a view on that particular programme, and how it might be mirrored in the public sector, or the private sector, or elsewhere?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
I don't disagree with a lot of what Jamie said. There's certainly a key message there regarding vertical integration. But during the course of my research, I found an advocate for a rail degree apprenticeship programme. And we found that they had bespoke…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
It's probably appropriate now, because it follows on from what Jamie was saying, if that's okay.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
That's very helpful for a report we might put together and a recommendation. Thank you, Chair.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. It was a very helpful answer. Nerys, is there anything you can fill in there?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
We've lost Amie there, have we?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
So, in the last session, our witnesses from FE and private apprenticeship providers told us that there's a lack of data on pupil destinations, and that they need more data in order to plan for the kinds of courses that might be provided, although Careers…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. Can I just come back with one last question?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. Thank you. To what extent then would—? Can we look at careers advice? How do you ensure that the quality of careers advice across schools is consistent and effective, and is there a difference between the advice provided by school careers advisers and…
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
I think it's Amie's. I've only got rabbits here and they don't make noise.
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Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
There's nobody with me.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. That's helpful. And what about the—
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. Although I note Llanidloes high and NPTC do it, and Llanidloes high has a sixth form. They seem to work quite collaboratively well. That's the case, isn't it?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay. That's helpful. Amie, did you want to come in on that?
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
Okay, that's really helpful. I don't know if Careers Wales have any views on that particular question.
, Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Apprenticeship pathways - Panel 3 - Information around Apprenticeships
So, the two questions that come from that then would be: should we have a similar clause through legislation in Wales, and, if not, or even if so, in what other ways can we overcome this problem?
