, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Just to follow up on what James was saying there, if not this Bill, I'm just interested in the discussions and the thought you've had with Peter Fox, but also the thought you and your officials have applied to this, as to whether, if not a single food…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. [Laughter.] [Interruption.] Pardon me, this isn't a cough, this is cold water going down the wrong way. Water is clearly bad for you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
You okay?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay, thank you. Thank you, David. James, sorry, did you want to come in?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Diolch, Sioned. Minister, I know we keep coming back to this fact, that it's not a Welsh Government Bill, it's a private Member's Bill and they need to do their work on this, or whatever, but when you were mentioning there the additional complexity of…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay, thanks. I'm going to bring Sioned in. We haven't got time to go into this discussion on commissioners, but I note that one of the values of occasionally having a strong and independent commissioner is their willingness to challenge Government and say…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. James.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. Thanks, Alun.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Okay. Thanks, Minister. I'm going to assume by the fact that both David and Claire don't want to come in, that they're not flagging anything either. So, if you want to come in later, by all means do. But, we'll take it that your initial reading is that there…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Can I rephrase it, then, knowing that this isn't your Bill, the Welsh Government Bill, but any private Member's Bill has an opportunity to progress if it finds favour within the Senedd? Your initial overview, could I ask whether there are any human rights…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
There we are. Okay, thank you. Before I pass over to Alun to take us on, can I just ask, in terms of any human rights implications, whether you've given consideration to how Peter Fox's Bill impacts, if at all, upon human rights issues?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Alun Davies is quietly purring away in the corner now contentedly.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
We'll have to put that question to Peter himself as well. James, let's bring you in.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
So you haven't gone into it in that detail because it's not a Government Bill, but yourself and David and the team, your overall analysis is that the provisions, which have grown as this Bill has developed, fall broadly within the competence of the Senedd.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
We are going to go quite deeper here, but let me ask you the question that always engages us as a committee. The provisions that do fall within this Bill, should it progress, are you confident that they fall within the legislative competence of the Senedd?…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
We'll go into this in quite some depth over the next hour, but I'm going to—. You clearly disagree with the Member bringing forward the Bill, who says this will provide that coherency, and it's interesting your responses—. You know, your response to Food…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
James will come back afterwards. We're all with agricultural experience of some sort. But anyway, let's go to—. One of the challenges here has been from the organisation Food Sense Wales. Listening to what you said in response to that opening answer, they…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Well, there we are. Your worst possible nightmare here.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
I'm also a former agriculture Minister, yes. Crikey. James, your time will come as well.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thanks for that answer. Let me test that a little bit further and then, probably to your great dismay and concern, I'm going to bring in a former agriculture Minister to test this a little bit as well.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
Thank you. Minister, if I can begin with asking you whether you consider that this legislation is necessary, and therefore whether you support Peter Fox's Bill.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Food (Wales) Bill: Evidence session
With that, we're going to turn directly to the first substantive item today, item 2, which is the evidence session on the Food (Wales) Bill. We have with on screen Lesley Griffiths, the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd. We also have…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Welcome, everybody, to this meeting of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee here in Tŷ Hywel. We have apologies for this meeting today from our regular committee member Peredur Owen Griffiths. He's taking part in Bill proceedings at the moment…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
Good afternoon. Welcome to you all.
, Plenary
Short Debate: Developing the hydrogen energy sector in Wales
Thank you very much, Janet, for giving me a minute to contribute in a very interesting debate. There are a couple of early-stage proposals within the Bridgend area, actually, for hydrogen projects, green hydrogen projects. And indeed, hydrogen might well have…
