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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Thanks, James. Peredur.
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
James, do you mind if Alun comes in?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Thanks, Alun. We may return to some of these points. But, James, over to you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Okay. Alun, take us on; clear up some of this uncertainty.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Okay. Just finally from me: the UK Government's impact assessment on the Bill has been deemed unfit for purpose by you. So, are you carrying out your own impact assessment?
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Right, okay. Okay. So, what we're hearing here is that, regardless of the presentation of this, there are some similar exercises going on in Scotland and Wales. You're doing as much as you can with the uncertainty that you have to try—. Right, okay. Okay…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Okay. Yes, okay. But I'm sure your officials behind the scenes are liaising with them so they'll have some idea of what they're doing. It would be quite interesting—
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Ah, okay. Okay.
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
So, how do you square that against the approach being taken in Scotland and Northern Ireland, where, from what we understand, they are carrying out their own review, thorough, going through it painstakingly? We appreciate that that takes resource. It may be…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Okay, well, let's go on from that, then, because back in August you told us as a committee that you weren't carrying out your own review of the REUL independently from UK Government. Scottish Government and Northern Ireland departments were. Has your position…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Okay. I think you did in the letter and you have again today, but this Bill is progressing and we're going to get into some of the detail of what that means for you and for us in scrutiny. But, tell me, these matters of detail as well as the matters of high…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
That's brilliant. Thank you very much. You're all very welcome. Counsel General, if we can go straight into questions. We just want to understand something right at the very beginning, because if I can refer—. You've been very critical of this Bill, but you…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Welcome back, again, to the continuation of our Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee's session today. We broke previously to go into private to consider the evidence we heard earlier from Lord Bellamy and his officials, but we are now returning…
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Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Ministerial evidence session
Welcome back, again.
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Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from items 9, 10, 11 and 13
Now, Members, if I could just ask whether you're happy now, bearing in mind that we are returning with the Counsel General later in the day, but first of all we need to go into private. So, what I'm asking you is if you're happy to resolve to exclude the…
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Papers to note
We also have—. We normally turn to papers to note, but we have no additional papers to note at this meeting.
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Inter-institutional Relations Agreement
We go to item 6, notifications and correspondence under the inter-institutional relations agreement. The first of these, 6.1, we have correspondence from the Minister for Climate Change on the Producer Responsibility Obligations (Packaging Waste) (Amendment)…
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Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
This is novel and we want to understand will this be a way forward that we return to again and again. Anyway, so, we note that.
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Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
So, it's a Standing Order requirement, so it can be done, it doesn't affect the legality, but it would be—. I think this is the point we need to discuss when we go into private. Having identified that there is a need to actually lay this, the Minister has now…
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Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
Gerallt.
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Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
Yes.
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Statutory Instruments requiring Senedd consent (Statutory Instrument Consent Memorandums)
So, we turn to item 5, where we have statutory instruments requiring Senedd consent, what we now term 'SICMs', in that horrible abbreviation: statutory instruments requiring Senedd consent, statutory instrument consent memorandums, SICMs. The first of these…
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Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Good. Thank you very much for that. I think we're happy to agree that.
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Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Okay. That's a helpful response. Thank you for that. I think we're happy to agree that. Item 4.2 is SL(6)282, the School Teachers' Pay and Conditions (Wales) Order 2022, and we have a report and the Welsh Government response. We looked at this on 28 November…
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Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Item 4, then, are instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3 that we have previously considered. And the first of these is 4.1, so it's SL(6)280, the Renting Homes (Wales) Act 2016 (Saving and Transitional…