, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay, and then that brings us back to the return. I'm wondering whether you think that coming back from this—. Sorry, whether following COP15, you will be in a position to legislate on domestic biodiversity targets, and if so, what would that look like in…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Okay, that's good. I mean, just to clarify, Chair, I know there will be negotiating positions that you will want to use to your advantage with working with like-minded partners out there when you get there to try and advance your cause, but I think what we'd…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
At what point will you be able to share with the committee and with the Senedd as a whole what your negotiation position is, so that we can see those specifics, so that when you go out there, we can take a view as to whether that's robust enough?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
I'm pleased to hear you talk about specifics there, and that's what I'm trying to get at a little bit here, because you seem to be suggesting that, beyond the broader ambitions of 30x30, beyond the broader ambitions of halting decline and reversing…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Thank you, Chair. We're going to move out of the woodland now and the trees, into broader areas—biodiversity and the Conference of the Parties. We don't have a lot of detail on what your ambitions are for influencing the outcome of COP. I know you've stated…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 2
Very briefly—my apologies, Delyth. Will this be applicable not just in the big city regions and towns in urban environments, but also in terms of what this highway development might do in terms of some of our Valleys communities and rural areas?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay. So, that's not coming forward as part of this Bill?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
And on that co-production, just one final question—we could go at this for ages, and it's a fascinating area, but the scale of this is immense there. The delayed taxi and private hire legislation, I assume you'll say that's been delayed as well, so, possibly…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
That brings me really neatly to my next question, and I'm deliberately pushing you hard on this because I want to know. These massive changes that we're talking about, do we have the capacity, the expertise, the willpower within our public sector to deliver…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
We've had the conversation, yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay. Well, I'm—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Yes, but from everything you're saying in powerfully arguing that case then, any restructuring, any legislation that comes forward, has to go hand-in-hand with realigning the economics that underpin this. We have to invest significantly more in allowing…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Okay. Thanks. I appreciate your honesty. I'm pushing you hard, and you're pushing back hard, because of the scale of the challenge that we absolutely have to meet here. Can I turn to the issue of bus franchising, the legislation that might be coming forward…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Not unless you're an alpine cyclist.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Tell us where the remaining political challenges are within making this happen. I agree with you; with the things you're putting in place already, you're driving this agenda. Are people coming with you? Are politicians throughout the land coming with you? Are…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
There can be no doubting that you've got the plans, you're working with the evidence, to make these changes. The question is, can we absolutely drive this at the pace you want to see, and that we need to do? Let's deal with some practical things. There's no…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Everything you're doing at the moment, Minister, everything Government is doing on this issue, is pushing against the grain, as you say, of decades of established thinking, and taking the public with us, as well as changing officials within every…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Thank you, Chair. I want to turn to public transport. There are some exciting things coming down the pipeline, we understand, from Welsh Government and so on, but let's try and unpack these a little bit. First of all, everything we've heard suggests we need…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
—to give us some of that real data.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
I'm wondering whether you could ask your team—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
It's very short. In terms of the leaseback programme that you've talked about, which I think is a great initiative, are you able to give us anything that shows how that is going? I'm thinking particularly in terms of mapping it by local authority uptake, but…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
I think I've probably thrown this at you before in some setting, but are you tempted by the Scottish model, where they're setting in place strict qualifications around the assessment and that anybody who goes into the home—? So, that doesn't mean that an…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Scrutiny of the Minister and Deputy Minister for Climate Change - session 1
It's a really short one. It's not to do with the insulation, or the right technology being applied in a particular circumstance, it's to do with the quality of the assessment and the training, or lack of, that we're giving to that. Because there are many good…
