, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Inter-institutional relations agreement
Yes, absolutely. It's a good point. It's an itch we keep scratching at with Welsh Government Ministers and I think we will, Alun, definitely come back to that. So, we'll note that item today, which gives rise, as Alun was saying, to a wider theme that we're…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Inter-institutional relations agreement
And then item 8, inter-institutional relations agreement. Under 8.1 in respect of this, we have correspondence from the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd on the Ivory Prohibitions (Civil Sanctions) Regulations 2022 and the Ivory Act…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Common frameworks
We'll go on to item 7, then—again, familiar to those who tune in to us on Senedd.tv—common frameworks. Under item 7.1, we have correspondence from the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Well-being to the Health and Social Care Committee in respect of the…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Thank you very much for that, Gareth. Happy to note and agree that? Thank you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3—previously considered
Item 6, then, instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3 that we've previously considered as a committee. The first of these is item 6.1, SL(6)126, the Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel and…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise no issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.7
We'll turn to item 5, instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.7. We have, with paper 12, statutory instruments with clear reports, beginning with a draft negative resolution instrument, item 5.1, SL(6)165, the Security and Emergency…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Very good. Okay. In which case, if you're happy to note it—. We might want to return to it in private session as well, but it's good to know that the thematic committee is looking at this as well. Thank you, Gareth. We'll agree those reporting points.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
That's helpful to know as well. Okay. Thank you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Absolutely. Alun.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
So, we've had a fulsome—literally this morning—response from Government to the points that Gareth raised on behalf of the committee. Do you want to note that and return to it in private? Are there any issues you want to raise now?
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
As they are the standard ones, I'm assuming that we're happy to note those and agree those reporting points. Thank you. That brings us to an affirmative resolution instrument under item 4.2, which is SL(6)167, the Council Tax (Long-term Empty Dwellings and…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
That brings us then to item 4, instruments that do raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. The first of these is a made negative resolution instrument under 4.1, SL(6)163, the Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions)…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise no issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Colleagues, if we can go on to our normal business. Under item 3, we have instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Orders 21.2 or 21.3. The first of these is item 3.1, SL(6)164, the Relaxation of School Reporting Requirements (Wales)…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
We'll leave the Minister and colleagues go now, and as they leave us, we'll get ready, then, to head on to our other business that we have in public session today. I'm just waiting for the officials to leave. Otherwise, they will have to accompany us through…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Counsel General, Minister, thank you very much indeed, and your officials as well. We always appreciate your time. We've gone over as per normal. We'd like to have you here longer, but to be honest you give us a lot of time regularly, so thank you very much…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Okay. Thank you, Counsel General. We don't have time to explore this further, and I do want to let you get away, but it is interesting for us what you refer to as matters of significance of dispute and so on, which in the new process we would expect to be…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Thank you, Piers. If I can just skip forward a little bit, we are talking about disputes that may arise, and the Counsel General is optimistic that, hopefully, we won't get many of these. We have got plenty of them ongoing right at this moment, and we are…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Piers, I wonder if you could tell us as well, in your response, whether the third party advice that is given will be published in full, as part of the reporting process.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
You are indeed. Counsel General, we're starting to get suspicious—you're so positive about this. [Laughter.] But you are right in that we're only going to see how this works further down the line, the numbers of disputes coming forward, if there are any, and…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Okay, then. We'll try not to go too far overlong there. We'll try and get to half past, and Rhys very kindly has said we can follow up this in separate ways, including on the floor of the Senedd, and we'll follow up in terms of writing to you as well. But let…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Not to worry.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
That's brilliant. Okay, now I just want to check—. We've probably got at least two hours or more of questions we want to do with you and you're only with us for an hour. Are you absolutely flying off at half past? If you are, we fully understand. If you've…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
That's great. Thank you, Alun.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
My apologies, Alun. Back to you.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Scrutiny session with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution
Alun, I think—. Sorry, I wonder if I could intervene, because sometimes the public looking in at this or reading the transcript will struggle to understand what we're talking about. But, just to make it clear, the economy Minister issued a statement last…
