, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
Thank you very much, Gareth. We're familiar with those. Just to ask Members, are we content to agree those points? We are. Thank you. That brings us, then, to made-affirmative resolution instruments. Item 4.3, we have SL(6)101, the Health Protection…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
So, I ask Members if they are happy with that. Thank you very much. We're happy to agree that report. We move on to item 4.2, SL(6)103, the Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 17) Regulations 2021. These regulations…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
We move to item No. 4. We have instruments that do raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. And under this, we have item 4.1, SL(6)099, the Government of Wales Act 2006 (Budget Motions and Designated Bodies) (Amendment)…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3
We're going to move on to item 3, which is instruments that raise no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3. And we have, under paper 1, item 3.1, a statutory instrument with clear reports, which is SL(6)098, the Non-Domestic Rating Contributions…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Introductions, apologies and substitutions
Good afternoon, prynhawn da, and welcome to this virtual meeting of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee. We're coming into public session now. My apologies to those who might have been waiting for us to start a little earlier, but we've been…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 4: blue carbon and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thanks, Sue. Probably too much to explore there, Chair, at this moment, but it's an interesting concept.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 4: blue carbon and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Chair, you're going to love me after that last session of questions. Can I just put a word in here for having a look at that model of the inshore fisheries groups, or should we say inshore fisheries and conservation groups, partnership, proper stakeholder…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 4: blue carbon and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 4: blue carbon and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thank you, Chair. Being born and bred on the Loughor estuary and having spent my early years there, I'm very familiar with both the natural biodiversity of that and the impacts on it of poor water quality over many years as well, not simply on the fisheries…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Sorry, Chair. I'm being a right pain in the neck here, I realise that, but, in only a couple of minutes, is there anything that our three witnesses think that we've missed that would be important in terms of marine planning, because I feel it's such a massive…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay. So, it's certainly no substitute for the more coherent, properly implemented marine management planning and spatial planning and everything that flows.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
But, Claire, is that an argument for not doing this approach at all or for doing this approach, but very carefully, very well-monitored, with the ability to monitor individual site applications before you move on to putting another machine on the ground, on…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay, but I wonder—. Look, sorry, I just want to play devil's advocate here for a moment. In an ideal world, we would have perfect data, holistic marine planning, granulation down to the local area, interface with terrestrial and marine as well—we'd have all…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thanks, Claire. Emily.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thank you very much, and it's a really intelligent approach to using all possible uses of the marine environment then to actually help us develop that data that we need. Okay, if I could just turn this on its head a little bit here and ask you—. Because…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay, thank you. Let me go on then to—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Look, you may actually have some partners and allies in arguing for this, because certainly the energy companies themselves made strong representations on the need to break down these commercial barriers, which was the purpose of the 2008 piece of work, which…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Any other thoughts on this? Claire Stephenson.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thank you, Chair. You've all focused on quite helpfully suggesting that there should be an independent review to help that review of marine planning. One of the things that we've had written submissions on away from a review is to actually have a follow-up…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay. Well, maybe I can go back to the other Claire, and, in so doing, say that the energy developers in front of us—one energy developer plus the overall sector body—agreed with the point that we put to them that what they want to see is net biodiversity…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Practically, what are you arguing for there, Clare?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay. Go ahead, Clare.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
So, before we go to the others, at the moment, what tends to be happening is, even with the structures that have been put in place, it's essentially focused very much on specific sectors, which are the big sectors at the moment, and we understand that, and…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Okay. Thank you very much. To take on Janet's question, Chair, as well, this question of the difficulty, the Chinese walls between being an advisory and a regulatory body, is something familiar to Natural England and so on and so forth. It isn't a difficulty…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Marine environment management - evidence session 3: marine planning and Marine Protected Areas (MPAs)
Thank you, Chair. I want to take you back to the issues of the granulation under the marine planning system, but before I do, we don't need loads of big answers on this, but are you all agreed that we need to see a significant uplift in the budget for NRW to…
