, Plenary
Group 8: Biodiversity targets: targets under new section 6B of the Environment (Wales) Act 2016 (Amendments 40, 4, 5A, 5, 54, 6, 31, 42, 43, 45)
Finches too. I'm not discriminating. I get it that this measure doesn't actually require primary legislation and is not the remit of the office of environmental governance, though it will be highly relevant to their setting of stretching targets. All that is…
, Plenary
Group 8: Biodiversity targets: targets under new section 6B of the Environment (Wales) Act 2016 (Amendments 40, 4, 5A, 5, 54, 6, 31, 42, 43, 45)
I don't think a pigeon would fit into a swift box, but anyway. As Delyth Jewell has said, their numbers have tumbled 75 per cent since the beginning of this Senedd, and what have we done about it? Nothing. In the last 10 years alone, we've lost more than half…
, Plenary
Business Statement and Announcement
The report and recommendations of the Independent Advisory Group on Future Electricity Grid for Wales was published last month and the foreword from the Chair, Professor Hywel Thomas, hints that they got pretty bogged down in the weeds on thorny issues like…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting and from the meeting on 23 February 2026
If there are no other points you wish to raise in public, can I ask you to agree to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting and for the entirety of the committee's meeting on 23 February? I see no dissent. I think we'll now go into…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papers to note
Yes, very good.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papers to note
Yes, okay. Obviously, he's only one player in this piece. We can write back to him, but you can imagine that this is the perennial problem we have, whatever we look at, of not joining up the dots in terms of the sharing of data internally for more effective…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papers to note
This is to Ian Barrow.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Papers to note
There are three papers to note. Is there anybody who wants to raise anything in relation to those? Jane.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
That's what we’re here for. Thank you very much.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
We'll obviously send you a transcript for you to review and make sure that it's accurate. Otherwise, thank you very much indeed for the accuracy and precision of your answers. Thank you.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Your timing is immaculate. [Laughter.] Thank you very much indeed.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you very much. Jane, you wanted—
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Yes, okay. I thought their recommendations were very straightforward for all political parties: the fact you've got to have collaborative arrangements, that people don't have to spend their whole life repeating their stories, and things like that. Lastly…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Just a couple of things from me. I'm glad you mentioned involvement. I wondered what assessment you may have made of the Llais consultation with people who use health services, and the manifesto they came up with, which, in English, is called, I…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you very much. Sioned Williams, would you like to come in?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Hang on a minute, Mick. I think Helen Nelson wanted to add something.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Can I ask Mick Antoniw to come in?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. Julie Morgan.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you very much. I wonder if we—[Interruption.] Very, very briefly, Helen Nelson.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you. I think we'll have to move on at this point. Can I call Altaf Hussain to ask his questions? You're muted at the moment, Altaf.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you very much. I'll hand over to Jane Dodds.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
I haven't heard you say that the health service has grasped this, though, because they get half the money that the taxpayer contributes to the Welsh budget, and health, above all, desperately needs a preventative lens, because otherwise we're just simply…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
What progress, if any, have you managed to make to ensure that they understand this incredibly important aspect of how we obtain value for money in the way we spend our resources?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Thank you for that. The most disturbing aspect of your report and that of the auditor general was the fact that health services hadn't really grasped the importance of prevention. I just wondered if they were some of the outliers who have yet to respond to…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Annual scrutiny of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
Please don't. [Laughter.]