, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Motion under Standing Orders 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting
The fifth item is that I propose, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.42(vi) and (ix), that the committee resolves to meet in private for the remainder of this meeting. Are Members content? Content. There we are, will move to a private session, therefore…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Papers to note
The committee will now move on to item 4, namely papers to note—4.1 to 4.4. Are you happy to note the four together? Yes, content. Thank you very much.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
May I thank the three of you for your evidence? There's a lot of evidence for us to consider and we, of course, will be using much of the material you have provided to us when we scrutinise Transport for Wales and the Deputy Minister in the coming weeks. So…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
And you raise an issue there in terms of community use of buildings that I'm sure we could do a whole session on. Maybe that's something we can look can look at in future. With that, we've come to the end of the time that we'd allocated, so I'll draw this…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Fine. And, Jools, the last word to you on this?
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Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Peter.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
No, that's fine. Okay, thank you. Can I ask, then, about whether you've been involved in any discussions with either Transport for Wales or the Welsh Government or, indeed, the UK Government on the impact of UK Government plans for rail reform in Wales? We're…
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Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
It's still not enough, is it? Okay. Jools, do you want to come in on this and your views on HS2 and consequential funding as well?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Just for clarity, it was a costing for the north Wales main line from Professor Stuart Cole—£1.5 billion to £1.8 billion.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Yes, the consequence for Wales would be £1.5 billion—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
I've confused that, then, have I?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Can I ask, then, whether you believe that the £1 billion promise for electrification of the north Wales main line is sufficient, because Jenny mentioned that Stuart Cole has estimated that it's going to be between £1.5 billion and £1.8 billion to realise that.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay. Janet, do you want to elaborate on the HS2 stuff?
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Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Peter.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay. Thank you for that. Jenny.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Jools.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Lets go to David first and then we'll come to Jools then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
That would be really useful, because obviously much of this is evidence that we want to present to the Deputy Minister and to TfW as well, so it would be good to have that information. Diolch yn fawr. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Joyce, did you want to come in?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
And that's something I'm sure we can pursue directly with TfW.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Delyth, you wanted to come in, and then we'll come to Joyce.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Sorry. Go on.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Okay—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Evidence session on rail delivery and performance
Welcome back to the committee. We will continue with our scrutiny on all matters rail, shall we say, and we'll go straight to Jenny for the next question.
