, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Natural Resources Wales
And I'm sure will be picking up on those, yes. Joyce. Oh, sorry, Janet. Okay, briefly, Janet, yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Natural Resources Wales
Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to this meeting of the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee. We are moving on to the third item on our agenda. We are continuing with our work of receiving evidence on water quality, and, joining us…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
The committee will now break for just five minutes, and we'll reconvene for a 10:30 start.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
So with that, thank you very much.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Well, the clock has beaten us now, so can I sincerely thank the three of you for your attendance this morning and for the evidence that you've given us—plenty for us to reflect on, mull over and to test further with our next panel, Natural Resources…
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Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. We are out of time, more or less. I think Huw very, very briefly, then. I think Janet has indicated that we've already covered the area that she had. Yes. Okay. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you for that. Jenny, I'll come to you next, and then Janet can conclude the session for us.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, well, I'm mindful that we have five minutes left and I know that Jenny and Janet want to come back in as well.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you for that. Did you want to come in? I know we might have touched on—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very, very briefly, then, because we've got five minutes left.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you. Huw.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Before I come to Huw, I'm trying to be objective here, but the facts tell us that you have been downgraded for two years in a row by Natural Resources Wales and Ofwat are describing you as lagging. So, what does that tell us about the performance of Dŵr…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very briefly then, please.
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Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, please. Yes.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Thank you. I'll bring Delyth in now, then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
So, can I ask you about the environmental performance assessment by NRW? Because obviously it reveals an increase in pollution incidents and a decrease in self-reporting, which suggests a very different trajectory to the one that you're portraying to us today.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you. Okay. Janet.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Thank you. And the Environment Agency pay for that in England, I think, don't they, the assessment, so maybe you'll have a view on that, but we won't go there for a minute. Joyce very briefly, because Janet is extremely patient in fairness.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, okay. Can you tell us about the independence of that then, because obviously it is your own work? You're marking your own homework, effectively. And I'm aware that academics at Cardiff University have recently questioned the reliability of that in its…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Is that the source apportionment stuff?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Briefly then, Huw, and back to Janet then.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Water quality - Evidence session with Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very briefly, yes.
