, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Thank you. With regard to some of the evidence that we've had from the Welsh Language Commissioner, they've asked for clarity on how the council is subject to the Welsh language standards, given that it will be a separate legal entity to the Welsh Government…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Thank you very much for that. It's finding the right balance, isn't it? Certainly, some of the voices that I've listened to, especially in the third sector, are nervous that they're not going to be heard, and that's always an issue then—that the bigger…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
So, on the back of that, then, if you don't necessarily want to change the face of the Bill, would that form part of the statutory guidance as to trying to nudge the council into making sure that they are looking out for these voices and that element?
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Yes, thanks. We've heard from the Equality and Human Rights Commission Wales—they've called for the establishment of an equality and human rights sub-group of the council that will ensure that those areas are integral to discussions around fair work. The…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Thanks, Chair.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
So, if that has a knock-on effect on the costs of this Bill, then would that be revised—
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Okay. Going on to another aspect, the trade unions have told us that they'll probably need additional facility time to meet their obligations under the social partnership duty. Do you think there'll be a requirement then for additional facility time? If so…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Okay. So, they might already have been taking account—
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Okay. So, we'd then get a revised RIA for this Bill.
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on the financial implications, Chair, as you said, we know that the Welsh Government's currently consulting on adding eight public bodies subject to the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 and, consequently…
, Equality and Social Justice Committee
Social Partnership and Public Procurement Bill: ministerial evidence session
Just quickly before I do that, if I can, Chair, with regard to what you were saying there, Neil, about being quite prescriptive, have you given any thought, then, to if that falls down and people aren't—? Is there an Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Diolch yn fawr.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Thank you so much for your time this afternoon. I don't know if you've got anything else that you wanted to let the committee know about, but we've certainly found it very interesting listening to your evidence this afternoon. Thank you to you and your…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Yes. And obviously that then—. What you'd hope is that that is translated into the costs for businesses and consumers as well—that would be the logic.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
You take one from the other and you still remain with the same figures.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
So, the differential stays roughly the same, it's just where it is—
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
A final question from me, and I think from all my colleagues as well. We just need to understand the impact that inflation may have on the total Bill cost over the 10-year appraisal period. Obviously, inflation is currently running at 10 per cent, probably…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
No, that's fine. Gian Marco.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Did you have an idea, obviously before everything went a bit hectic, at that point, when you first came up with it?
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Okay. So, from the research, obviously, that figure will—we'll get that ongoing benefit. Do we know when the crossover will be from when the costs will be paid off? Do we know roughly when this Bill will break even?
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Thank you, Mike. Minister, just to clarify, the £8.6 million-worth of benefits is the proportion that you've gleaned for the Welsh equivalent to a UK figure, basically.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Okay, thank you very much. Mike.
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
In relation to that, obviously, if you've got trading standards having to check these things out, in the costs in the RIA, has that enforcement element been covered? I know it mentions that it has. Is that the element of enforcement—
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Okay. Before I ask Mike to ask some questions, just circling back maybe along those lines, and something that struck me now on something you said earlier, Minister, with plastics, the harder plastic ones that can be reused and are badged up as machine…
, Finance Committee
Financial implications of the Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Bill
Thank you very much. Peter Fox.
