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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Anthony.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Good, good. I know that Anthony wants to come in, and Sam wanted to. Actually, Sam, do you want to come in with a quick question and we'll have to then look at—? And Mike's been waiting patiently as well, but there we are.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
So, that work is ongoing.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Speaking from that experience there, that's good. How well does good practice move across from localised, very good practice in certain areas? How do you share that best practice across the local government family?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, you talked about this earlier. I don't know if you wanted to come in on that first.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Okay. Thanks for that. I'll come back to Rhianon for one more question, then I'll have to go to Mike Hedges.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I suppose the next step on that, then, is if it's Barnettised and then if it's put through the revenue support grant formula rather than what's needed in different councils because of the different make-up and decisions being made on local government. So…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Have there been any conversations with the Welsh Government now to try and talk through what that NI increase impact is on those service providers beyond local government. I see Andrew, I think, nodding there. Does the Cabinet Secretary have an understanding…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Just on that, and thinking through some of the decisions especially around NI and the potential impact on third sector that support you and then provide services for you that are arm’s length, so aren’t guaranteed to get any funding settlement, could you…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Rhianon, did you—?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
From the planning point of view and understanding with national insurance and when those payments are coming and that sort of thing, any comments around that? Anthony.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, you mentioned this earlier in terms of national insurance. Do you just want to start on that, and then I'll go to the others?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Great. I'm going to move on if I may, and so, I'll go now to Rhianon Passmore to move to some of the next questions. Rhianon.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew, do you want to comment on that?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis, briefly, and then we'll need to move on slightly.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Anthony wanted to come in on this point.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Andrew, you're shaking your head there, so do you want to come in on that? Just unmute Andrew for me, please. There we are.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
I know that we're going to return to national insurance later on, but thank you for those points. Sam.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Nia, do you have—? Do you want to respond to Sam's question?
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
It's good to have that comment, because it helps, not necessarily with the budget now, but especially with policy development and legislation. But I'll come to Nia now.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Before I come to Nia, just a point that I think Andrew Morgan made there, or it might have been yourself, Sam: one thing that this committee, when looking at regulatory impact assessments for Bills, sees is how much it's going to cost Government, but then not…
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Yes. I've got Nia who wants to come in, but I'll bring Mike in and then I'll bring Nia in after that.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Lis.
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Welsh Government Draft Budget 2025-26: Evidence session 5
Maybe Andrew, from a WLGA standpoint, and maybe from Rhondda Cynon Taf as well.