Well, when we look at where the data is taking us at the moment, that reveals several things. One is that over—. Every year of data can be quite different, as you know, individual variations and so on, but what we are seeing consistently is that the herd incidence is being driven down. But there's an interesting corollary to this, and I can go through the stats and the data on it with you, which is that herd prevalence is really sticky. So, there's something within that about the—. We're managing with the interventions that we are doing in a range of areas on biosecurity, on cattle movements, on testing, on better testing, on things like the Pembrokeshire pathway, where we have a real, proper partnership, where it's not—with all respect, for a moment—the man from the ministry saying, 'You need to do this'; it's actually the man from the ministry, it's the chief veterinary officer, with the expertise they have, together with, for example, the expertise from Aberystwyth University, but, most importantly, with the on-farm vet and the farmer having autonomy over the decisions. Now, all of that is meaning that we're driving down—. Every part of Wales is different. We've got different areas with hotspots and so on, but we are driving down consistently, year after year, the herd incidence. But the prevalence is there. We've got something stuck within it. Now, that means we need to use the data that we have, in the way that they use it within the Pembrokeshire pathway, actually, to give the ability to farmers to say, 'Well, I need to make decisions based on that.' And that might be looking at the animal health of individual cattle on their farms to say, 'Well, this might well be the one, because we've got two or three characteristic factors that are saying, this might be the vulnerable one; that might be the vulnerable one', but then not being told, but actually having the autonomy to make decisions. So, we are doing some good stuff, Sam, here in Wales on that, and I think there's more to come.
The other thing, by the way, is, of course, as we discussed briefly earlier on—. The establishment of the TB advisory group, I think, is a significant moment, and the programme board that's above it. The TB advisory group is an expert-led group, and it's got real depth of experience across the piece, including with that relevant experience to the farming environment in Wales. We've got people on there, including vets, who've had live experience on the farms in Wales, but there's a wide range of other experience. But them uplifting where they think we are, where we need to go next and so on, to the programme board—and the programme board, by the way, just to reiterate, because there's been some criticism over it, that's where actually the farming representation is, either directly or in ex-officio members, as well as veterinarians and so on—I think that will be a very helpful guide for the work that I'm doing, but also in what they flush out that will come to this committee as well, to say, 'Well, where do we go next?' But we do have a positive trend in driving down herd incidence. But I understand the frustration out there, because our programme clearly says, 'We aim to eradicate this by 2041.' Now, that is a big ambition, but we're committed to it.