The Chamber is being fully fitted out at the moment, as we speak. So, you'd have to work out how to sort that out.
I remember, when I was a councillor, there were 70 Flintshire councillors, and scrutiny would meet maybe once every four to six weeks. I think it was 12 members on scrutiny, 21 on the planning committee. Whereas I'm on three committees that meet weekly, and there are six Members on most, a bit less on this one. Because I'm a Member of the Senedd, I understand, but when you're a councillor and you have to deliver legislation and budgets delivered by the Senedd or made by the Senedd and you're struggling with funding and capacity at local level, sometimes you might challenge, because you don't understand: 'What's the point of the Senedd if we cannot deliver the budgets and the legislation?'
It's an education thing, I think, that we need to do, so that people understand the roles of different governments and what they do. Because I would say the average resident that we all serve doesn't understand all the layers of government and what we all do. I think that's something that we all should try and do, to help people to understand the role of the Senedd. There we are. We'll take your advice and close the petition. Thank you.
Moving on to petition P-06-1530, 'Save Childcare Provision in Wales—Demand Fair Funding and a Fair Process for Providers and Parent'.
'Childcare Providers across Wales are at risk of closing due to an unsustainable funding model imposed by the Welsh Government. The flat rate schemes do not cover the true costs of delivering childcare and providers are not allowed to charge the parent the true cost of care when it exceeds the set rate. Since every setting operates differently, many are being forced to run at a loss. This is despite Welsh Government regulations stating our businesses must be sustainable to safeguard our children.'
This was submitted by Lisa Owen, with 1,914 signatures. This is a huge issue, isn't it? Good childcare is so important. My daughter has said that, across in England, parents are now charged for nappies and a lot of money for hours that aren't covered by the free childcare, up to £12 an hour, and they're getting charged for food as well. So, different ways of trying to bring the money in. There has been an increase, up to £6.50 an hour, but it's not covering the costs. Could I bring Luke in to discuss this?