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David Thomson.
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I'll bring in Vikki, then—Vikki Howells.
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Okay. Are you finished there, Hefin?
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David.
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We'll start with you, Andy Richardson, this time.
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Andy, what about your views?
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Yes, Dave.
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Okay, Luke? I'm going to come now to Hefin David, who's virtually in the meeting there. Hefin, over to you.
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Okay. Luke Fletcher.
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Thank you. I'm going to bring Sam Kurtz in.
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Okay, thank you very much, Andy. Sarah Murphy.
25 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
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And the same question to you on this issue of potential for resource-consuming bureaucracy, if I may, Andy Richardson: what are the views of the Food and Drink Wales Industry Board?
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Surely, having a strategy would help to give a long-term view, and the underpinning that this Bill, some people would argue, will bring with the legislative framework might help to avoid unilateral declarations in one part of Wales versus others and help to…
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Okay. With respect to the point that you made about, I think it was Edinburgh council—City of Edinburgh Council—of course, anybody can made a declaration that they're going to promote veganism, at any government level, at any time.
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Thank you for that. One of the issues that the Minister has raised in her response so far to the Bill is she has suggested that it's going to be resource consuming, bureaucratic for those people who have duties under the Bill, and perhaps even for the…
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That's essentially your position. And what about the Food and Drink Wales Industry Board? Do you want to tell us what your views are on these matters, Andy Richardson?
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So, you don't want to upset the apple cart that's already been delivering, in some sense.
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Around 35 members. Okay, that's great. You've argued in your written evidence that a policy-based approach should be given a chance before the introduction of legislation in the way that's proposed by Peter Fox in the Food (Wales) Bill. How do you respond to…
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And how many members would that be, specifically?
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We are going to resume our meeting today. We're now on item 4 on our agenda of the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee. We're still considering the Food (Wales) Bill, and we've got our second panel session of the day, taking evidence from food…
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Excellent. Okay. On that final note, I just want to thank our panellists for their evidence today. You'll receive a copy of the transcript of today's proceedings, once it's produced, so that you can correct anything if the record is incorrect. We're going to…
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And the final word to Gareth.
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Okay. Dylan.
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Anything to add, Rhys?
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Andrew, briefly.