15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
We do. Well, I can't speak for everybody, but yes.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
There we are. Okay. Let's see if we can get a couple of areas in very, very quickly with questions and answers here. One is in respect of the part of the Bill that refers to the smoke control orders. It's taken our notice that you haven't mandated the…
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. We're into the last few minutes, but, James, go ahead.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. James, could I bring Alun in just for a moment? Alun.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Thanks, Pered. James, take us on, then, to a different area here.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, okay. Thank you. That's helpful. Pered, take us on to timescales.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, okay.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, okay.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Thank you. Okay. That's brilliant.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, let me work then to the next question, which is, if I accept that, if we accept that as a committee, then why not, actually, put a duty to bring those targets forward, rather than a discretionary power?
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Yes, okay, I accept that.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Which comes back to the way that the Bill is devised, in terms of balancing the socioeconomic and so on.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, but you could put those WHO ones, even if you'd want to go further, perhaps, in some areas—you could put them into the Bill now and amend them subsequently by regulations. I'm just intrigued.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
It does raise the question of what targets are actually in place now. Are those not meaningful at all?
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Right, and Olwen is shaking her head as well.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
So, the targets you've put on at the moment, you're not convinced would be meaningful and the right targets.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay, thank you. Peredur, are you okay? Peredur, before we come back to you, can I just ask a couple of things, just following on from Alun there? There is a contrary argument, in terms of where you put targets, because you could have chosen to put targets on…
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Go on, Olwen.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. Alun.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
We'll leave it for the Counsel General's next consolidation Bill.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. Sorry, James.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. We get it. You made a choice on the way to proceed there. It leaves something of an untidy statute book behind it at a UK level. We'll have to come back to that at some point.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
You're going to commit the resources to tidying it up, then.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
The converse of this, then, is that there is a job of work to be done with the UK Parliament in tidying up their statute book now, because some of this is, you would argue, redundant, if this Bill proceeds.
15 Mai 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil yr Amgylchedd (Ansawdd Aer a Seinweddau) (Cymru): Sesiwn Dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd
Okay. That's great. James.