6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. I think we've heard that before; it's an in-principle statement of the position of Welsh Government. I'm not sure we can prise this open any further. It'd be interesting in practice as to whether this bites. Okay. Pred.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's a very lucid form of words you've just given me, but I asked you specifically in that instance that I referred to in terms of goods. So, if regulations in the Bill include objectives that breach the non-discrimination principle for goods, you are saying…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Thank you for that. Minister, UKIMA doesn't bite on this Bill at all.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
That's fine. Okay, let me turn to the interaction of this or otherwise with the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020, something that we're constantly looking at on this committee now. Health services are excluded from that Act, but what is the position as…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Yes, okay.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
You didn't think it was necessary.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. That's interesting. You're asking them to help you shape that possible divergence that Alun was referring to there. Okay. That's interesting. Can I ask you why was the duty to consult with relevant authorities or other bodies during the development of…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Thank you, Alun. Okay. We'll carry on, then, on the issue of consultation for the moment. The explanatory memoranda says that a full, open 12-week consultation exercise will be undertaken during the development of the regs, so how are you going to do…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Okay. Alun.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Yes. Okay. James.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
No, no, indeed. Is it your anticipation that, as these things get bolted down, they will be sharing with you that definitive information, draft regulations and so on?
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. That picture seems to suggest that you are having reasonable dialogue with your counterparts; it's just that things aren't bolted down totally, but you're seeing the shape evolving. This is not a shut door on you.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I wonder whether, Alun, it's worth inquiring whether there is any sharing of information, particularly things like draft regulations. Is that specifically—. Are we having that sort of level, or have they undertaken to share those with you, because that would…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Thank you. Alun, we'll come back to you. We're doing well, by the way; we're rattling through this.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Thanks. Sorry, James.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay, but in an ideal world, you would.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
And just say 'yes' or 'no'.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Oh, Minister—sorry, yes, in an ideal world.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
James, I wonder if I could just follow up on the question area. What, of course, that gives is to make sure that you, as Welsh Government, are able to do what you described. Would you agree that it would be beneficial if Members of the Senedd, in terms of…
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Diolch, Pered. Ymlaen nawr gyda James.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Thanks, Alun. Pered, take us on to another area.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
To follow up on Alun's point, that wouldn't have fitted satisfactorily in the other procurement Bill that's coming through because—?
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Alun, I think Dafydd might want to come in as well.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Okay. Alun.
6 Mawrth 2023 , Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
One of the things that this has resulted in, however, is more limited time for Stage 1 scrutiny, so what are your feelings on how that time has been managed? I do take your point that sometimes, as a Minister, you have to wait to be given a slot.
