9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
And I'm sure will be picking up on those, yes. Joyce. Oh, sorry, Janet. Okay, briefly, Janet, yes.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyfoeth Naturiol Cymru
Bore da, bawb. Croeso yn ôl i Bwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd a Seilwaith. Dŷn ni'n symud at y drydedd eitem ar ein hagenda. Rŷn ni'n parhau'r gwaith o dderbyn tystiolaeth ar ansawdd dŵr, ac, yn ymuno â ni ar gyfer y sesiwn nesaf, mae cynrychiolwyr o…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
The committee will now break for just five minutes, and we'll reconvene for a 10:30 start.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
So, gyda hynny, diolch yn fawr i'r tri ohonoch chi.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Well, the clock has beaten us now, so can I sincerely thank the three of you for your attendance this morning and for the evidence that you've given us—plenty for us to reflect on, mull over and to test further with our next panel, Natural Resources…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. We are out of time, more or less. I think Huw very, very briefly, then. I think Janet has indicated that we've already covered the area that she had. Yes. Okay. Huw.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you for that. Jenny, I'll come to you next, and then Janet can conclude the session for us.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, well, I'm mindful that we have five minutes left and I know that Jenny and Janet want to come back in as well.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you for that. Did you want to come in? I know we might have touched on—
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very, very briefly, then, because we've got five minutes left.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you. Huw.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Before I come to Huw, I'm trying to be objective here, but the facts tell us that you have been downgraded for two years in a row by Natural Resources Wales and Ofwat are describing you as lagging. So, what does that tell us about the performance of Dŵr…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very briefly then, please.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, please. Yes.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Thank you. I'll bring Delyth in now, then.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
So, can I ask you about the environmental performance assessment by NRW? Because obviously it reveals an increase in pollution incidents and a decrease in self-reporting, which suggests a very different trajectory to the one that you're portraying to us today.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay, thank you.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Thank you. Okay. Janet.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Okay. Thank you. And the Environment Agency pay for that in England, I think, don't they, the assessment, so maybe you'll have a view on that, but we won't go there for a minute. Joyce very briefly, because Janet is extremely patient in fairness.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Yes, okay. Can you tell us about the independence of that then, because obviously it is your own work? You're marking your own homework, effectively. And I'm aware that academics at Cardiff University have recently questioned the reliability of that in its…
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Is that the source apportionment stuff?
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Briefly then, Huw, and back to Janet then.
9 Tachwedd 2023 , Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Ansawdd dŵr - Sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dwr Cymru Welsh Water
Very briefly, yes.