30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Thank you. Sam, I'll bring you in.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Any further—?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Right, yes. If you've got extra bits to add—. Otherwise, it's just concurring.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Okay. Thank you. Barbara.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
So, having a greater voice from the industry, effectively, on how it's spent, rather than decisions being made by local authorities.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Thank you for that. Just moving on, and I'll bring Sam in after this now, but to you all, to move away from the raising of the tax to the use of it, or the use of the levy, in section 23, the Bill requires local authorities to use the proceeds of the levy in…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
But then, say it was a family of four or a family of six, in your example, and it didn't charge for children, just for the adults staying overnight, that would get closer to that lower figure.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Have you run the numbers on your figures if you just charged adults?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
And that's the cumulative of a family of four—
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Part of the evidence that we've received from the Cabinet Secretary, the WRA and others is to try and keep it as simple as possible, and that's the argument for a per-person, per-night figure, rather than a percentage. For those small business owners that the…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Alistair.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Rhianon, did you want to come in on this point? You're unmuted.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Thank you. Barbara and Lisa, have you got a view on that cumulative—? I know you haven’t given evidence as such, but it's just your opportunity to be part of that discussion.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Carl.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Okay, and then, to Carl and to Alistair, this one, actually: you noted that the levy would compound the impact of broader Government policies, like the 182-night occupancy rule and the forthcoming abolition of the furnished holiday lets relief. Could you talk…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Lisa.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Yes, to both of you.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Right. Okay, just for us to get the context of how long you've been involved. That's great. And a question, then, to Alistair and to Carl: as you mentioned in your written evidence that the charging of the levy on overnight stays could potentially shift the…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Alistair.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Barbara and Alistair, when did they start with you—was it in 2022 or was it before?
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Okay. Carl.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Okay.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
There we are. Fantastic.
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Fantastic. Thank you very much for making the time to come to this. We have lots of witnesses and lots of ground to cover, so, brevity would be appreciated, please, and to my colleagues on the committee as well. I'd like to start with a general question to…
30 Ionawr 2025 , Finance Committee
Bil Llety Ymwelwyr (Cofrestr ac Ardoll) Etc. (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 6
Welcome back to everybody after our break and it's good to see our witnesses here with us for this, the sixth evidence session on the Visitor Accommodation (Register and Levy) Etc. (Wales) Bill. I'd like to welcome you to the committee and thank you for…