8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Yes, if you could.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's on capital and technical, so I'm going to ask Lisa just to give us an overview.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Manon, did you want to comment? We have a licence with Microsoft and, I think, because of the governance-first aspect, we need to be very careful what we put into, maybe, a different entity, just to make sure that we're fully in control of where that data…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I'm quite interested in how AI happens in different Seneddau and different Parliaments around the world as well. We're currently exploring and piloting AI through Microsoft Copilot, Teams and Teams Premium, and individual cases have clear successes, but…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
As you'll be aware, the Business Committee make those decisions as to how the business runs, and that's something that we as Commissioners and officials then have to bear in mind. Obviously, we, the same as you, will have seen some of the papers that have…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I'll bring Ed in on the structure and what works are going to be carried out during that refurb to make it fit for purpose for the future. Ed, did you want to comment a bit further on that?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I'll take that to start, and then I'll bring Ed or Manon in afterwards. I think the extent of the works that are going to be carried out in our preferred bid is significant. In effect, it will probably look like a new building on the same site without…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think the main point is no decisions have been made as to how we purchase the Tŷ Hywel property over time. The decision to do that will be taken in due course, after a very clear cost-benefit analysis. Obviously, we'll have use of it for that 50 years…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think the locality is one of the—. The Senedd building isn't moving and, therefore, being able to have offices that are close enough for us to be able to carry out our work as parliamentarians, and being able to access this building that we're in now, from…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think staging is part—as in, the stages at which these things happen—. We had to make decisions, or the Commission had to make decisions, before the 2026 election as to what accommodation was needed when we all came back into the building. So, we had to do…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Sorry, Ed, did you—?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
We're fully engaging with the Welsh Government at an official level, and I know that the chief executive is speaking to senior officials within the Welsh Government to make sure that they're fully apprised of what's going on. With any decant strategy, that…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I'm going to look to Lisa.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Rent is being paid, but the rent reviews haven't.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Just to mention, on the savings, because we're potentially moving out of the building, it means we save on rates, we save on rent. Plus there's also been, for the project to date, at least two rent reviews that have been frozen, so we haven't seen those…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Ed, do you want to talk through some of the specifics on the costs?
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Gwnaf i ofyn i Ed i fynd i mewn i'r manylder yna, ond jest i fynd i pam rydyn ni angen symud allan i gael y gwaith wedi'i wneud, y strategaeth i gychwyn efo hi oedd aros yn yr adeilad ac i symud pobl o un ochr i'r llall ac yn ôl, ond oherwydd y manylder i…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Fel rydyn ni wedi dweud yn barod, mae'r prosiect yn fawr ac mae yna lot o symud ynddo fo. Mae penderfyniadau o ran mynd ymlaen efo'r prosiect yn mynd i gael eu gwneud cyn diwedd y flwyddyn, ac mae'r broses wedi—. Mi wnaf i ofyn i Ed jest i esbonio y broses…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Cyn dod â Manon i mewn, dwi’n meddwl bod hwnna yn rhywbeth pwysig. Mae cael y balans o beth rydyn ni’n ei roi mewn adroddiad, a beth dydyn ni ddim yn ei roi mewn adroddiad, o ran hygyrchedd gallu ei ddarllen o, a deall—. Dwi’n cymryd eich pwynt chi yn glir yn…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
It's something that I know the Llywydd has spoken about in the Commission, looking at the shop provision. And, obviously, as somebody who visits other Seneddau around the world, it varies very much, even if you go to Westminster. But it's certainly something…
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Regular.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
But it doesn't include the staffing costs. So, we make £15,000—
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think the point is that we're not a commercial entity, so we shouldn't be using the estate to make profit. I think that's the point.
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
I think—
8 Hydref 2026 , Finance Committee
Craffu ar Gyllideb Ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd 2027-28: Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Lisa, do you have the figure to hand?
