19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
That's absolutely right. The Government have to report back to the Senedd. It's important that scrutiny—. Scrutiny is going to be fundamental to make sure that our food system delivers what it needs to for the future generations. So, yes, absolutely.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
No, I think it's quite clear that the Welsh Government need to come up with the strategy, but in consultation with the commission and anybody else that they need to consult. This should be a Government strategy. Scotland have got one, UK Government have got…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. They've just created a commission, chair and board. So, we're suggesting five to seven members. But, if you think across the food system, all that experience helping that chair to come to a collective decision—you know, the…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I was always of a mind that, to get the breadth of expertise that is needed within that commission role, it needed to be a chair and board, not an individual commissioner. We had long debates about this, and I still maintain that, and, actually, if you look…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Several people have said that, and I put it on record that I'm really pleased that the future generations commissioner has been very supportive of our Bill and what we're trying to achieve here. I don't believe that at any time she suggested that she would…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I think, Chair, the targets in this area are going to be different to the sort of targets we often measure around basics like waiting lists and things like that. So much has to change, perhaps, in some areas to align to these targets. They are going to take a…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Oh, right. I think, Hefin, if I remember, it's—the terminology—. The first review must be completed within five years. Five years is the maximum date. If, for a reason, Ministers and officials found that targets weren't addressing the food goals in the way…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Is it five years on targets, or two years on targets?
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Well, I'll bring Sam in. I know Sam can perhaps answer that.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
No, that's absolutely right. Every man and their dog would have liked to have added something extra to this Bill. It was very soon into the process that advice to me was that we needed to make this very high level—very much a framework Bill, leaving as much…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes, I think, Hefin, if that would be helpful for the Bill to move forward, we could explore how we could lay that out in addition to the explanatory memorandum. Tyler.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Can I ask Elfyn to talk to that?
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I was just going to say that we must remember that this is a framework Bill. We’re actually leaving a lot of discretion to the Government to look at and change any of these things if they feel that’s appropriate. But we felt that what we’d advise on that…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I’m just trying to find the section on reporting. I thought we needed to report within a two-year period. [Interruption.] Item 6—yes, reporting duties. So, what the Bill says, Hefin, is that the regulations under section 4 must specify a reporting date for…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
No, I’m fine.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
No, that’s fine, Hefin. Sam has captured it.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thanks, Chair. Sometimes when people are coming on the screen, I struggle to pick it up well enough. I might need to use the headphones.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Sam, could you go on? I’m struggling to hear a little bit.
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. Can I bring Sam in?
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
The Bill is a framework Bill, and the agriculture Bill and the sustainable farming scheme will encourage farmers to produce more locally sustainable food, probably more diverse food. I'd be hoping that the development of the food strategy would be encouraging…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Just a reflection on that. I thank Sarah for her comments. I'm still comfortable with the way that we've taken this forward. It enables the provision of strong targets, which can be easily understood alongside easily understood secondary goals. Again, now, as…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
I've never had any intention for there to be a hierarchy in those food goals. We could list them whichever way you wanted; they are all fundamental to achieving that overarching principal food goal. They are all equally important; they all have a fundamental…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Yes. I mean, I'm happy to work with the committee at later stages if we feel that there are elements of this that could be strengthened to satisfy more or make it more obvious how we will meet those aspirations of the future generations Act, even though we…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
Thank you, Sarah. I think I'd need to understand, really, more about what you're meaning by 'cultural' in the sense of the food system and how that relates to where we're going, because what we believe is that the very nature of what we're prescribing with…
19 Ionawr 2023 , Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
Bil Bwyd (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth 1
This Bill is a framework Bill. It doesn't look to contradict or frustrate or get in the way of any existing legislation; indeed, it sits above those areas. It sits above the existing legislation, it sets a high-level direction of travel for the food system by…
