, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership (NWSSP)
Thank you, Chair. Can I just ask you for your assessment on how effective you think the public sector route-map is in providing that strategic direction for decarbonisation?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Just one small one for Andrew, from his perspective. When the audit body was in front of us earlier on, they were talking about their support for well-managed risks in driving towards decarbonisation and zero carbon. How do you as a local authority or as…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Very quickly, then, if I can turn to reporting emissions, could I ask what's your assessment of the usability of the Welsh public sector net-zero carbon reporting guide as it stands? And on the basis that it went through a bit of a rejig last year—it went to…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Thank you very much for that answer. I can see you coming in as well, but maybe I can throw this in and you'll both want to respond. Away from the health boards per se, and wider reach across the public realm, you mentioned hydrogen earlier on and, of course…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Sorry, Chair, but I want to try to push just a little bit deeper. Where do you do that sort of collaboration? Is it just on bilateral engagement, spotting an opportunity with Cwm Taf health authority, or other ones across Wales with different local…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
That's good. Maybe if I can do just a couple of follow-ups away from the climate strategy panel itself. We're aware from the audit office that the health boards, for example, have a slightly shallower hill to climb—a 34 per cent reduction by 2030. Of course…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - evidence session with the Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)
Thank you, Chair. Good morning. Just a real practical question here. The climate strategy panel, can you give us some more information on how often it meets, what sort of engagement the Welsh Government has with it? But can I also ask you what engagement it…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Right.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Okay, it was worth asking. [Laughter.]
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Right.
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Yes, very briefly, before you head away then, while we've got you in front of us, you mentioned the NHS's separate plan of 34 per cent reduction by 2030, and you said it would be a good area for us to focus on. Can you give us an idea, just high level, what…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Just very briefly, to add to the point being made already. If that is the case, then we seem to be in a similar situation to skills such as transitioning from highways authorities to more sustainable transport authorities, where there's a lack of expertise…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
So, is there a requirement, then, for something more clear in legislation now, on this 2030, than we already have, or is it all there? Do you think the driver is already there legislatively?
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Sorry, I don't want to hog it, but can I just ask you what were the factors that made the material difference to do that particular piece of work? Was it legislation, was it legally binding targets, was it just that everybody went, 'Yes, we've got to do this…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Is there anything that you can draw on in the experience of yourselves or the UK audit bodies that can say that we've hit similar challenges before and have done it, or have near enough done it? Sorry, I keep on pushing because I'm trying to get a real sense…
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Yes. And you touched on things like leadership as well, and the genuine leadership beyond—. I suspect, what you're hinting at, is beyond the—. Everybody can agree to the rhetoric around this, but then agreeing to the big changes—
, Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee
Decarbonising the public sector - briefing from the Auditor General for Wales
Just the big question, first of all: with all of the challenges that you've identified—so, the lack of a full cost analysis across the public realm of the real cost of doing this decarbonisation, the skills, some of the granular things that you haven't…
, Plenary
Questions to the Minister for Education and Welsh Language
The Minister will know from his visits around Wales that some pupils don't engage with the traditional curriculum and with traditional education. But providing opportunities such as construction skills is a way in to a productive future career, and sometimes…
, Plenary
Questions to the Minister for Education and Welsh Language
4. What assessment has the Minister made of the role of construction skills as part of an alternative curriculum for school pupils? OQ59261
, Plenary
Questions to the Minister for Climate Change
It's on iPlayer.
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting
So, unless there's anything Members want to raise, I'll put a motion, under Standing Order 17.42, now to move into private session, and seek your agreement to exclude the public now for the remainder of the meeting. And we're happy to do so. Thank you. We'll…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Item 6.4, we have correspondence from the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd in respect of the Agriculture (Wales) Bill and responding to the recommendations within our report on the agriculture Bill that we published on 27 January. And…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Papers to note
Then we'll move to papers to note in the meeting, under item 6. Under item 6.1, we have correspondence from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the Health and Social Care Committee in respect of the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill. The…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Inter-institutional relations agreement
So, if we're happy to note that, then we move to item 5, notifications and correspondence under the inter-institutional relations agreement. Under 5.1, we have a letter from the Minister for Social Justice and a written statement from the Minister in relation…
, Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee
Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.7
We'll go on to item No. 4, instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.7 and, under this, we have one item. It's item 4.1, SL(6)327, 'The Curriculum for Wales—Statements of What Matters Code'. Again, we have a draft…