, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
That's fine. And talking a little bit about the system that we will have and the closed lists, and we are of the same mind that we'd prefer an STV system, but we are where we are with that, should the by-election bit be—? Basically, the petition would be—. As…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
And was it 'yes' and 'no' for that, or was it just the one vote to say, 'Yes, recall'?
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
So, you wouldn't have known that you'd got to 19 per cent earlier.
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
Okay. And, just looking at—. You said, again, that 10 per cent was the threshold to call a by-election in Brecon and Radnorshire, but you got to 19 per cent, should they have stopped after 10?
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
And, from your experience in Brecon and Radnorshire, when the process was happening there, you talked earlier about six weeks being a very long time, finding that balance—you seemed to indicate that it should be a shorter period of time. Given your last…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
And, assuming that we've agreed that these are the triggers, that the standards committee, or whoever, has decided, looking at the evidence, that those triggers have been met, there's been a report to the Senedd, the Senedd has voted to agree that report, and…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 9
Diolch, Cadeirydd. Just stepping back slightly to the question before last around custodial sentences, what if somebody was protesting and it was on a matter of conscience, not paying a fine or something? We've seen lots of examples of that. Would you still…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 8
A final question from me, Chair, if that's okay. The way that it's drafted currently allows for the Member, once they're aware that it is a false statement or the fact has been proved to be wrong, to be able to put the record straight within 14 days. So, that…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 8
And in looking through some of that documentation and in reading the papers before today, do any of those international examples jump out at you as something that we could adopt parts of, or something that you read in there that was particularly useful that…
, Standards of Conduct Committee
Inquiry into Individual Member Accountability: Evidence Session 8
Good morning, and thank you very much for your time this morning. In your deliberations there and in coming to some of your conclusions, obviously, you've read the drafting. Have you drawn on any international comparators or anywhere where this has been used…
, Finance Committee
Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting
Under Standing Order 17.42(ix), I'll decide now to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Is everyone content? Yes. Thank you very much.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Thank you very much, Ed. It's always a pleasure to have you here. Thank you very much for attending today. There will be a transcript of the session sent to you for you to check that for factual accuracy.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Well, thank you very much.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
But it allows for those regional voices to come through, because you need that regional voice of that regional party, I suppose, to be able to hold that coalition together.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
But in places like Italy, you've got multiparty, rather than, in Westminster, it is red and blue and a few of the others, so it tends to be much more of an adversarial two-party state, rather than a—. When we were talking about America, then it certainly is a…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Potentially, yes, so there are elements, and as this inquiry has gone on, we've teased out a lot of information. And I think that probably brings us to time, unless you've got something to add in on this.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
There is that element, and obviously with fewer MPs being returned next week from Wales, but at least—. Yes. So, that's a—
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Yes. This afternoon. We'll have that discussion later.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Yes.
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Is there a body within the UK currently that could take on that sort of independent arbitration? I'm just thinking either the Office for Budget Responsibility or the National Audit Office, or somebody who could look at the facts and make a decision and that…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
Thank you very much. We've touched on it a few times during the session this morning: mediation and arbitration when it comes to resolving disputes. You've talked about different international examples of how this is done. You're very well aware of the Welsh…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
With this committee, in particular, we get reports from FISC; we get a letter, very often, from the Cabinet Secretary once she's been to those meetings, and she gives us a short report. Is there more work that this committee could do in the scrutiny element…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
When the inter-parliamentary forum—. Recently, we went to and held a session in Westminster with some committees there as well, and we had I think it was six or even seven different political parties around the table, sharing information and sharing and…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
You've alluded to one there and we've set up between ourselves, the Finance Committee here, and in Scotland and Northern Ireland now—as that executive finds its feet again—the Interparliamentary Finance Committee Forum. Do you think that that has any merit in…
, Finance Committee
Fiscal Inter-governmental Relations: Evidence session 7
There's no grandstanding, I suppose.