3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Bil Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Thank you for that. That's very useful. So, how did you arrive at eliminating profit, because that's the—? Having looked at all that dysfunction, all of that—and I take on board what you're saying there—eliminating profit, how did you get to that? How do you…
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Bil Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
And thanks for making time to come and meet us. We've now been joined by Rhianon Passmore as well. Croeso, Rhianon. We've got quite a lot of ground to cover, so I'd like start. Obviously, there will be a transcript for you after the session to check for…
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Bil Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Fantastic. Thank you very much. Well, croeso this morning.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Bil Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol (Cymru): Sesiwn dystiolaeth
Croeso nôl—welcome back. We'll now go to our fourth item. We've had a change of Ministers, so we have the Minister for Social Care here. Dawn, would you like to introduce yourself and your officials for me, please?
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Diolch.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Or stalled—yes, it's stalled. There we are. Thank you so much for your time this morning. We've got a few other questions, but we will write to you with those, but we've covered an awful lot of ground this morning, and appreciate your time in engaging with…
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Using that analogy, it's crashed about halfway through, hasn't it, so hopefully we'll get it back on the track.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
It's proving the mechanism.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
So, it being a Labour policy, there's a good chance it'll happen in the next year or so.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Thank you. I've got one final—. We've just ticked over half past. I've got time for one more question and then we'll probably write to you with some others. So, I hope you'll indulge me for a second. You mentioned in your written evidence that your experience…
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
It circumvents this committee as well in the scrutiny we do.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
What would be the difference between what is set currently? Have you calculated what it should be if it had gone up in line with inflation?
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Thank you. Sorry, Peter, I'll bring you in now.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
But it's still underpinned by goodwill, rather than by any rules base.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
And that means a buy-in from all parties that that person or organization is—and binding on all sides, then, whatever that decision is.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
—or an auditor, or whoever it might be?
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Would that be a King's Counsel or a judge, or the Office for Budget Responsibility—
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Is that at official level, then?
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Before I bring Peter in, just because you've touched on disputes and that element, FISC does have a way of trying to resolve disputes—has that been engaged with at all in these discussions around HS2 and other aspects that you've been laying out just then? Is…
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
So, changing the goalposts all of the time means that you can't plan.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
So, there's no easy mechanism for you to be able to challenge that. I'm sure you're working—. You said it was a challenge and it took a long time.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Of course. But once you've had time to digest it.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Just going back to the fiscal event day, when you get those tables, is there any challenge involved in that, as in, you go, 'I don't think you've got that right'? Or is it, 'This is it' and there's no pushback whatsoever?
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
But it's your intention, if it comes sooner, that we'd have those budgets sooner.
3 Gorffennaf 2024 , Finance Committee
Cysylltiadau Rhynglywodraethol Cyllidol: Sesiwn dystiolaeth 8
Could we have your commitment that, if the budget is sooner than you expected it to be, you'd bring forward your budget so that we'd have that time to scrutinise? Because that's something that we're always discussing. It's just making sure that we're on the…
