Plenary

Diolch, Cabinet Minister. Abertillery is a prime example of a community that is being held back by the UK Government's chronic underfunding of Wales's rail network. The proposed Abertillery spur would reconnect a town of around 10,000 people and serve up to 20,000 residents across the wider Ebbw Fawr valley, improving access to jobs and education, increasing footfall for local businesses and supporting town centre regeneration. This is not a speculative proposal. It was identified by the Burns commission, included in the Wales rail board pipeline, and has already undergone years of development work. Yet there is still no funding route to deliver it. Given the transformative impact this project could have, what representations is the Welsh Government making to the UK Government to secure Wales's fair share of rail funding and ensure that projects such as the Abertillery spur can finally become a reality?

Thank you for the question.

The figures are stark. The UK Government has promised an investment of £445 million, which sounds like a large figure, but when you compare it to the £4.5 billion owed to Wales under HS2 money, it is merely a drop in the ocean. That £4.5 billion would allow us to invest in Abertillery, it would allow us to invest in rail and bus services across the country. It is our fair share, it is chwarae teg for Wales. That is why I am proud that my colleague the Deputy Minister for Transport is pursuing this case energetically with the UK Government. It is only right, it is only fair.

I have consistently argued for the devolution of rail funding. Asymmetric devolution has not worked. It hasn't worked in Britain, it hasn't worked in Spain. It is important that rail funding is devolved. The main question is how should the funding be calculated. Which of these does the Minister prefer: relative population, relative population with the 20 per cent addition that the Barnett formula provides, relative track length, or relative passenger numbers? Each of those will give you a different answer.

Indeed, and I thank the Member for the question. There is clearly work to be done in our detailed negotiations with the UK Department for Transport. The Member will know that we would do pretty well out of relative track length, because of the geography of Wales. We have historically received a disproportionately low share of rail enhancement funding from the UK Government. Transport for Wales set out a vision of £14 billion of rail spending. That is the kind of rail funding that Wales needs to improve our rail services and to ensure that we have a twenty-first century rail system. I welcome the support of the Member and we will pursue those negotiations with the UK Government energetically.

Thank you. The Welsh Government is committed to continuous improvement, pursuing reform through its multi‑year WG2025 programme. This has helped to strengthen organisational capability and effectiveness, alongside improving workforce capacity and estate efficiency. We continue to work to align resources to priorities. Strong internal and external scrutiny helps to ensure continuous improvement. No stand-alone fundamental review is planned, although we remain open to conversations about how we strengthen the civil service in the Welsh Government.

The Welsh civil service sits within the UK-wide Civil Service Commission framework. But that governs only whether appointments follow due process, not whether the institution is fit to deliver for Wales. The UK Government sits within that same framework and commissioned the Maude review anyway. In 27 years of devolution, no Welsh Government has done the equivalent. What evaluation has the Minister made of committing to an independent, externally led, publicly published review of the civil service's capability, or can he explain whether there is some alternative work under way?

I thank the Member for the question. It is right to note that the Welsh civil service sits within the framework of the UK civil service. She will also be aware that the Permanent Secretary is responsible for the day-to-day running of the civil service. I think the Maude review, and the review in Scotland of the civil service, suggest a number of pointers. I know colleagues at the UK level are looking at civil service reform. It is a conversation that we as a Government, and I as the Government Minister responsible, are very open to having across this Senedd and more broadly.

I think it is very interesting and very telling that when we look at the figures for civil service employees over the past five years, there has been growth at the UK level, there has been significant growth of the civil service in Scotland, and yet in Wales, we've seen a fall in the number of civil servants. I'm not yet in a position to take a view as to whether our civil service complement is at the right level, but I think we should be having a serious, open and constructive conversation about what that level should be for the future. That is one I hope that all parties—and I welcome the input of the Member and others on the opposition benches into that conversation—would take part in.

I welcome the question, but I am concerned that the opposition party has been constantly running down our public servants, calling for jobs and pay to be cut and for scrapping practices that support fairness in our workplaces. This will not deliver the improvements that our communities are calling out for. What Wales needs is political leadership that believes in our public services and our public servants. Wales needs leaders with new ideas and energy who can work with and inspire our public servants to deliver better outcomes. With that in mind, please could the Minister update the Chamber on his work in the Welsh Government to establish measurable outcomes and milestones?

I thank the Member for her question. We are committed to public services in Plaid Cymru. It is part of our DNA. We are committed to effective and efficient public services. As part of that work, we have established a strengthened Cabinet office to oversee and regularly review progress, co-ordinate activity across Government and ensure that barriers to delivery are identified and resolved. This supports both effective internal monitoring and external scrutiny. Our plan is to make full use of existing high-quality data sources, ensuring that information used to track progress is robust and can be used with confidence. At the same time, we will be transparent where data gaps exist and consider how these can be addressed over time. I'm pleased to report that I've asked the chief statistician to work on these data issues. I'll be updating Members within the 100 days as to progress on those transparently published measures and dashboards that this Senedd can look at and scrutinise on a regular basis.

I'm declaring an interest as a former national officer for the PCS union, which was one of the unions for the civil service, so I do know the civil service pretty well. Does the Minister agree that reform shouldn't be a euphemism for cuts and that the priority must be ensuring that the civil service has the capacity and the capability to deliver for the people of Wales, which ultimately means strengthening delivery, not cutting the Welsh civil service? What I would like to also hear is the words 'union' and 'social partnership', because you can't do this work without having the unions on your side and part of that process too.

I thank the Member for the question. Absolutely, our view is that we should strengthen our capacity and capability to deliver on the people's priorities here in Wales. I am totally committed to the social partnership model. I should probably declare that I was once a member of the PCS union many years ago in one of my earlier professional backgrounds. I am committed to working with the trade unions. What we've seen, and what I've seen in my role already, is how productive and effective trade union representation can be in delivering and driving positive change across our public services.

Diolch yn fawr, Lywydd. May I congratulate the Minister on his appointment? Minister, Plaid Cymru has long argued for more powers for Wales and greater responsibility here in Cardiff Bay. But Plaid cannot present itself as a new beginning after the Labour-Plaid era when, at key moments, it helped keep Labour in power. After 27 years of Labour-led devolution in health, education, transport and the economy, does the Minister accept that Plaid shares some responsibility for that record? Why should Wales hand more powers to the same governing consensus that helped create the failures it now claims it can fix?

I welcome the opposition spokesperson to his role. We in Plaid Cymru are clear that we are a new Government, we set out a new course, focused on the people's priorities—on childcare, on child poverty, on the economy, on schools, on healthcare. I think it is clear to everyone in this Chamber that the legacy of 27 years of Labour Government led to their election result. That is why so many of our fellow countrymen and women voted for a new leadership for Wales, and that is a Plaid Cymru leadership.

Turning to the question of powers that you raise, for us, powers is about delivering the people's priorities. Therefore, if we can do a better job of delivering on justice and policing where we have integration with health and education, then that is what we will do, because it will improve the lives of people in Wales.

Thank you. Minister, Plaid's manifesto is clear: it wants independence. But in the latest polling—and it's true—the people of Wales do not. So, is the Government pursuing independence by instalments—more powers, more separation, more institutions—without first asking the Welsh people the direct question? Will the Minister commit today that there will be no constitutional change by the backdoor, no move towards independence and no further substantive devolution without clear public consent?

Let us begin with the question of independence. Our Prif Weinidog, our leader, set out clearly during the election, and it was clear in our manifesto, that there will be no referendum on independence during this term. I repeat that commitment here today, and I am happy to repeat it.

Let us move forward to your question about more powers. Where there are opportunities to improve the lives of people in Wales, then we will take them. There are discussions ongoing on natural resources and water and tackling the scandal of pollution in our rivers. Yes, we will pursue those negotiations with the UK Government with vigour, to seek to improve the lives of people in Wales. We will make no apology whatsoever for that. We are on a constitutional journey in Wales. It is a journey that is best served by consensus and collaboration, and that is what we will seek to do.

Minister, I'm not sure if that was a straight answer to a straight question, because Wales deserves clarity. If the self-styled party of Wales has a constitutional agenda, it should be honest about where that agenda leads. Reform will hold this Government to account, and vague constitutional language will not be enough. So, Minister, we are told again and again that Wales needs more power, but, on health, education, transport, local government and the economy, the record of devolved delivery has fallen far short of what Wales was led to expect. So, before asking for yet more powers, will the Minister tell us plainly what measurable benefit each proposed new power would deliver and the business case there? If he cannot, people will ask the obvious question: is this really better Government, or independence by instalments, a constitutional path to independence by stealth?

Thank you. I think I was very clear that there would be no referendum in this Senedd term. Turning to the matter of delivery, I have been clear, and our party was clear during the election, the 27 years of failure to deliver was an indictment of the previous Labour Government. The challenge is to deliver on childcare, on child poverty, on health, on education, on the economy, and by those measures shall we be known.

May I welcome the Minister to his role and wish him well, in the hope that there is enough air in the tyres of the ministerial bike, and enough wind in his sails too?

Minister, last week, the Senedd voted in favour of bringing legislative proposals forward during the first year of the Senedd to establish a statutory negotiating body for school support staff.

Can you confirm, as the Cabinet Minister with responsibility for the legislative programme and the programme for government, that you are now respecting the Senedd's wishes and have begun preparing legislation for a school support staff negotiating body to be contained in the legislative programme? Diolch yn fawr.

I thank the spokesperson for his best wishes. I wish him well, too. He will know that I, as a constituency Member, follow two of his colleagues who were very enthusiastic about environmental and sustainability issues and about active travel. I pay tribute to them as well, if I may—Jenny Rathbone and Julie Morgan—and I wish them well in their retirement.

In terms of the legislative programme, detailed work is happening at present among the legal services team to draw up that programme, to consider the complexities of the significant programme that we have before us in terms of primary legislation and secondary legislation that we will need to scrutinise. Also, as the Member will know, there's a significant programme in the light of the King's Speech in the UK in terms of legislative consent motions and so forth, and therefore that work is progressing at present. I hope that, as a Government, we'll be in a position to update the Senedd and to make a statement during the coming weeks on the legislative programme.

I thank the Minister for that response. There wasn't a great deal of confirmation given there, and I do hope that the teaching assistants, cleaners and cooks listening to this discussion won't feel that their interests will face an uphill struggle, if I can continue with my cycling references.

Turning now, Minister, to what you have said you would be doing, on your manifesto during the election, the Institute for Fiscal Studies warned that Plaid Cymru's policies would deepen the cuts faced by unprotected services. Welsh Labour, my party, warned that your policies were undeliverable without severe cuts. Plaid Cymru, of course, told the electorate that you had costed policies but that you wouldn't publish them. So, given, Minister, that you have responsibility for planning the Welsh Government's legislative programme and oversight of the programme for government, can you today unambiguously confirm on the record in the Senedd that every pledge in your manifesto will make its way into the legislative programme and the programme for government in the form that they are outlined in your manifesto? And if the answer is 'no', what are you already deprioritising? Thank you.

I thank him for the question.

As I set out to the Senedd, we are undertaking detailed work on the legislative programme at the moment and we will be making an announcement to the Senedd in due course on those priorities. But the Prif Weinidog, I and my Cabinet colleagues have been clear: our priorities set out in the manifesto around childcare, around child poverty, around the health service and reducing waiting times, around improving standards in school, around improving the economy are our priorities, and people must understand that those are the areas that we seek to deliver on and those are the areas on which we will be judged by the people of Wales.

Diolch, Lywydd. Cabinet Minister, let me also congratulate you on your role and thank you for your early engagement also. Cabinet Minister, what assessment have you made of how much ministerial and civil service time and resource is likely to be spent on constitutional and independence-pursuing work over the Senedd term, and how do you think that that may affect the Government's capacity to focus on core public service delivery?

I thank the spokesperson.

I welcome him to his role and thank him for his congratulations. For me, and for us, the test of this Government will be how we deliver on those bread-and-butter issues, if you'd like to describe them as such, on childcare, on child poverty and the issues I've outlined. I expect, and we have agreed, that the Government will focus on those priorities. I have outlined, and I'll outline over the next few weeks in my oral statement, my priorities on the constitution. I will work across this Senedd on matters of the constitution and seek to bring consensus and collaboration to those issues. Therefore, in line with the Plaid Cymru manifesto, our focus will be on those public priorities that we have set out, and, on the constitution, it will be focused on those very specific priorities that we set out in our manifesto that will improve people's lives—on water, on policing, on justice, on the Crown Estate, to improve people's lives in Wales.

Thank you for your response, Cabinet Minister. I agree with you that the people of Wales expect their Government in Wales to focus on what really matters in their day-to-day lives—the economy and those important public services. But there is a very real risk, of course, that a Plaid Cymru Government will spend far too much energy on those constitutional debates and the push for independence. And you will know, of course, Cabinet Minister, that economic analysis has suggested that independence would cost the average working taxpayer around £11,000 a year—a huge figure that highlights the level of risk and uncertainty being attached to this debate at a time when families are already under significant pressure. You'll also be aware that your own finance Cabinet Minister recently stated that the outlook for the Government's finances is challenging, and added that there is probably more challenge than she expected there to be, which raises further questions about whether it is the right focus of your attention to pursue this agenda of independence here in Wales. So, Cabinet Minister, explain what assessment has been made of the impact this ongoing focus on the constitution is having on your ability to deliver on your core responsibilities. Surely, your priority right now should be to get the powers that you already have working well for the people of Wales.

I can assure the Member that there is plenty of energy to go around in this Plaid Cymru Government and Plaid Cymru Cabinet. I'm not sure whether I was clear enough, but I shall repeat myself again: our priority is delivering tangible improvements to people's lives in Wales. Every morning, I receive from my colleagues in the Cabinet office a spreadsheet of progress on all of those priorities that we've set out and how we are progressing on those 100-day plans. We have set out clearly the way forward we want to go on the constitution, and those are our priorities.

A new national commission is being developed as part of our 100-day plan. It will oversee progress on further devolution, engage with the public in a national conversation about Wales's constitutional future, and strengthen the evidence base for further reform. I will update the Senedd as this important work develops.

Thank you very much for that answer, and it's high time that Wales's messy constitutional settlement was sorted out. Successive Labour Governments were content to see the matter kicked into the long grass, but this inertia has failed people and communities in Wales. Plaid Cymru has asked for further power for our country, not just for the sake of it, but for the chance to make the changes that will deliver positive impacts for our people and communities. On this issue, there must be more action and more movement in this Senedd, and I'm pleased that you have a lot of energy to do that.

A myriad of commissions, papers, books and opinions of learned scholars have said that the current settlement needs to be ripped up and that a new and improved one should be created that reflects Wales's position in the present day. So, how will the commission draw on the various commissions and papers that have gone before it? What kind of new evidence will need to be gathered by the national commission to complement the existing knowledge base? And how will the national conversation be facilitated on this issue?

Well, thank you for a range of questions there. If we could start with building on the work that's been done in the past, I was fortunate to meet with the former archbishop, Rowan Williams, over recent days, and I will be meeting Laura McAllister in the coming days, because what I see the new commission doing is building on the good work that the independent commission did, and the Silk commission, the Thomas commission. There is a robust evidence base there.

What I will ask the commission to do and to discuss further is where the gaps are. Where are the elements where more work is needed? And one example that's already emerged is some of the work around how the function of justice within Welsh Government would look. What's the length and breadth of that? How would it be shaped in order to deliver successfully in terms of youth justice, for example? So, that's the kind of work that I would hope to see done there. But I would also wish to see more work done on participative democracy that draws people in, that generates that national conversation, and draws on all sorts of perspectives. We've heard a number of different perspectives on the constitutional future of Wales today, and we need to draw all of those perspectives together in a real national conversation that is led by the people.

Many congratulations and welcome to your place, Minister. Cabinet Minister, many of my constituents in Brycheiniog Tawe Nedd tell me that their priorities are reducing NHS waiting lists, improving public services, fixing our roads, supporting local businesses and addressing the rising costs of living. They rarely, if ever, raise constitutional reform. So, given the significant pressures on public finances, can you explain what evidence the Welsh Government has that establishing a national commission on Wales's constitutional future is a priority for the people of Wales, what the expected cost of such a commission would be, and whether you will ensure that its membership fairly reflects the full range of constitutional views across Wales, including those who believe that the focus should be on improving the delivery of devolved services, rather than pursuing further constitutional change? Diolch.

I thank the Member for his congratulations and for the question. I think we've rehearsed several times the interplay between constitutional powers and priorities of the Government already in this question time; I suspect we might rehearse them a few more times before this Senedd term is out. I do want to make an absolute commitment, which is that the national commission that we are seeking to establish must be broad based and must reflect the wide range of views that the people of Wales hold. That is a commitment I am happy to make here in the Senedd. It is how we have operated as a party in the past, and it is how we seek to operate as a Government.

I would question the Member if no elector in Brycheiniog Tawe Nedd has no concern whatsoever of the sewage in their rivers or of the police on their street or of the windfarm developments and energy infrastructure. These are the very issues that are illuminated by some of the constitutional issues that we are currently grappling with, and we will seek to grapple with them and seek to ensure that those decisions are made in Wales and are driven by the priorities of the people of Brycheiniog Tawe Nedd and of Wales.

Diolch, Llywydd. Congratulations on your new role.

Devolving policing has been the recommendation of a series of independent commissions, dating back to the Silk commission in 2014. Each one of those commissions considered the financial implications amongst other implications in reaching their conclusions.

Can I thank the Minister for his answer? Minister, across my constituency of Blaenau Gwent Caerffili Rhymni, and right across Wales, people want your Welsh Government to get on with the day job. They want to see NHS waiting lists reduced. They want better jobs and higher salaries, and they want to see a better Welsh education system. What they don't want to see is their taxes wasted on devolving more powers. Given the costs associated with preparing for and implementing further devolution, why does this Plaid Government think this should be a priority, when so many of the public services that people rely upon are already under considerable pressure?

Okay. So, I shall repeat again: our priorities are the NHS, are schools, are the economy, are child poverty and childcare. Llywydd, I think it'll be a very long four years if we carry on like this. However, the Member has highlighted one important area where we will be discussing with the UK Government, when we come round to policing. There clearly are negotiations to be had around the transfer of functions and how effectively those resources are transferred from the UK level to the Welsh level. We will be robust and energetic in those discussions with our UK counterparts.

I should also note—and some Members will be aware of this—there is a significant programme of policing reform being led by the UK Government at the moment, and therefore there is a significant opportunity, as part of those discussions, to advance the case for a more Welsh-focused solution to policing and justice in our country.

Policing is one of the anomalies in the current devolution settlement. I led a debate back in 2013—it seems a long time ago now—that succeeded in this Chamber, calling for the devolution of policing. It didn't get very far, but it did get the majority's support in this Chamber. Policing is devolved to Northern Ireland, Scotland, London and other areas with elected mayors, but not to Wales. Different devolution settlements for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland do not work, as I said earlier. Currently, Wales gets 20 per cent extra for devolved services than England gets. Why would it be different for policing?

I thank the Member for his support for devolving policing, and he has set out previously in this Chamber and elsewhere the case for devolution. Policing, of course, is not only, as he reminds us, devolved to Scotland and Northern Ireland, but also to a number of the mayors in England. It is a complete anomaly that Wales sits apart from that. It is an anomaly that we hope to address as a Government.

Congratulations on your role too.

Unlike Reform UK, I do want to talk about something that affects the people of Wales directly and affects women. The devolution of justice and policing is not an abstract debate—it has real human consequences, and in the last Senedd, the Equality and Social Justice Committee concluded that the current devolution settlement is causing direct harm to women in Wales. There is no women's prison in Wales. Welsh women serving custodial sentences are held in England far from their families and far from their communities, and far from the support services that they need.

We do not want more prison places. We do not want more prison places for women here in Wales. What we want are other resources, such as what was promised us under the last Labour Government, the Swansea residential women's centre. It is vital and was promised to us. So, what will you be doing in order to ensure that women in Wales are not being failed? What is your plan for securing these powers and a timetable? Diolch yn fawr.

Thank you very much to the Member. There are a number of issues there in terms of services for women that are currently not good enough under the current justice system. I do think that there is work to be done in terms of the justice system and devolution. There is work to be done in terms of policing that is related to devolution. In order to make progress on this, we must build an effective, productive relationship with the UK Government. A meeting has already been arranged with the Minister for policing in the UK, the Deputy First Minister and myself.

Last Wednesday, I was at the Home Office at the ministerial anti-terrorism board, where we discussed issues of collaboration between devolved Governments and the UK Government. And what was striking, even in such grave circumstances, was that there needed to be effective collaboration between justice, health and education.

Diolch, Llywydd, and, Minister, congratulations on your appointment.

Supporting public services to tangibly improve people's lives is at the forefront of this Government's agenda. It is this principle that will guide us in any requests for new powers, as I've outlined already to some of your colleagues. Taking a one Welsh public service approach, we will reduce fragmentation, increase collaboration and invest in capability through a new national school of government.

Thank you. Minister, devolution demands trust, and trust is earned through competent stewardship of the powers you already possess. Yet, last week during a debate on women's rights, some Members walked out of the room and the Government failed to explain how it would uphold the law in practice. If you cannot reassure women that you understand and will faithfully apply the Equality Act 2010 as it stands, why should they trust you with even greater powers over their rights?

Thank you for the question. I'm not wholly sure, Llywydd, how that relates to public service reform. However, I will make this commitment quite clearly, as my colleagues have already made: the Welsh Government will follow the law and will uphold the law in everything it does.

This Government’s position is clear: justice should be fully devolved to Wales, as it is in Scotland and Northern Ireland. In the coming weeks, I’ll be meeting with UK Government Ministers to set out our position and to start those discussions. We will pursue the devolution of justice and policing as an immediate constitutional priority.

Diolch, Weinidog. We know that the current justice settlement undermines Wales, leading to complexity, confusion and poorer outcomes for our communities. The Commission on Justice in Wales found that, due to the Welsh Government often having to operate in reserved areas, almost 40 per cent of the total funding is actually contributed in Wales, above other tax revenue that is raised from Wales and then allocated by the UK Government to Wales. The commission states that:

‘This position is unsustainable when the Welsh Government has so little say in justice policy and overall spending.'

Furthermore, they conclude that there is no rational basis for Wales to be treated differently from Scotland and Northern Ireland when it comes to justice settlements, particularly as Wales has its own long legal tradition.

Devolving justice would allow the Welsh Government to align policy with its distinct and developing social, health and education policies and services and the growing body of Welsh law, allowing us to adopt a whole-system approach to tackling the root causes of offending. What assessment has the Government made on the positive effects of devolving justice for constituencies across Wales, such as mine?

Our assessment is the exact points that the Member refers to there. Devolution would allow us to adopt a whole-system approach, embedding a consistent set of values led by evidence and trauma across all services. It would enable us to bring justice and policing together with the other devolved services that are vital to prevent offending, support victims and rehabilitate people.

May I also add my congratulations to the Minister on his appointment, and may I thank the Member for his question? Minister, I'm quite sure that I speak for many other people across Wales when I say that, rather than looking for further devolved powers—and I say this respectfully, you're going to be looking for trust, as my colleague Cristiana Emsley has pointed out, in support for further powers—these people would actually like to see the problems fixed in Wales before they issue any trust for any further devolved powers. Minister, let me ask you this: what suitable qualifications do you have within your Government to effectively oversee the judicial system? After serving 20 years in Her Majesty's Prison Service, and more recently providing drug and alcohol interventions in police custody, I have seen first-hand the devastating effects of crime, both to the victim and the offender. This arguably makes me suitably qualified to scrutinise your plans.

Minister, in 2024 your party supported the decriminalisation of illegal drugs and proposed cleansing convictions for drug possession. If justice is devolved to Wales, would you pursue these policies, and what assurances can you give the public, the NHS, the police and the brave men and women who enter our prisons on a daily basis that decriminalisation would not be—[Interruption.]

Diolch. Thank you for the question, and I pay tribute to the Member's long-standing service on our behalf, keeping everyone safe. I think there is an important discussion around probation, around prisons, around justice that we need to have, that we need to have as a Senedd, that we need to have as a nation, as we move towards devolving justice. As I mentioned, I was recently at the counter-terrorism ministerial board, where the Welsh Government could play a positive role in working with colleagues in the Home Office, right across the UK. That is what I expect our Government to do, and that is what I hope our Government would do were we successful in devolving justice.

The Government is united in its vision for Wales. That starts with our 100-day plan, which I am working collaboratively and co-operatively with all my Cabinet colleagues to deliver. The programme for government will build upon this foundation, with clarity of focus, improved cross-Government working and meaningful outcomes for the people of Wales.

In a written answer to a colleague, the Minister described delivery as driven by a sustained focus on outcomes and high-quality use of data, but there's a real difference between measuring activity—what Government has done—and measuring outcomes—what's actually changed for people. So, specifically, is there a single consistent framework that measures delivery against the programme for government on a comparable basis across all departments, or does each assess its own progress, in which case, a focus on outcomes is only as credible as the framework that captures them?

I thank the Member for the question, and I have some sympathy for the points he makes. If we are to be successful, our Government must deliver on outcomes not on activities, because, if we deliver on outcomes, they will be felt and measurable to the people of Wales, and, when we face the electors in four-years times, we will be able to point to those outcomes that are not only in a Government press release but are felt in communities right across Wales. I'm working with colleagues, as I've mentioned, our director of statistics and others to develop those measurable outcomes, to develop dashboards, which will be transparently available, and I look forward to updating the Senedd in due course on progress on those matters.

This Government’s position is clear and unequivocal: justice, including policing, should be fully devolved to Wales, as it is in Scotland and Northern Ireland. The policing reforms in England are an excellent opportunity to progress the devolution of policing.

Diolch, Cabinet Minister. Before being elected to the Senedd, I served on the north Wales police and crime panel. There still remains considerable uncertainty about the future of policing in Wales. We are in the extraordinary position of being the only UK nation without responsibility for policing. Indeed, as has been said, many metropolitan areas in England now have greater powers over policing than Wales does, yet the services that interact most closely with policing every day—health, education, housing and social services—are already devolved. As the UK Government pursues the biggest reforms to policing in England since the 1960s, does the Cabinet Secretary agree that the case for devolving policing to Wales has never been stronger? As a point of principle, if powers over policing are considered appropriate for Greater Manchester, the west midlands and other English regions, then surely they are appropriate for Wales. So, can the Cabinet Secretary outline what discussions he has had with the UK Government to ensure that Wales is not left behind once again and to secure the devolution of this vital service?

I can wholeheartedly agree with that. In principle, and on principle, policing should be devolved to Wales. The current reforms offer an excellent opportunity. As I mentioned in a previous answer, I have already met with colleagues at the Home Office. The Dirprwy Brif Weinidog and I will be pursuing the conversation around further devolution with the policing Minister in coming weeks, and, ahead of that, we will be in discussions with our police and crime commissioners here in Wales, with the chief constables, with representatives from local government and the policing partnership board for Wales at the end of the month. We are also arranging meetings with Lord Hogan-Howe. There is a significant opportunity here to get it right. I look forward to working with Members in Government, but across this Chamber, in delivering the devolution of policing to Wales.

May I thank the Member for raising this issue? I would suggest that you write to the relevant Minister with your concerns. Clearly, some answers have been given in the past on these areas; you heard from the Minister just now in terms of how we want to work in relation to justice. So, I would encourage you to write to the Minister.

Trefnydd, can I ask for a statement from the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care on the MBRRACE-UK 'state of the nation' report that was published last week, which shows that Wales has recorded the highest stillbirth rate in the UK for the third consecutive year, and, between 2022 and 2024, had the highest combined rate of stillbirths and neonatal deaths across all four of the UK nations? Given these concerning findings, what specific actions is the Welsh Government taking to reduce stillbirths and neonatal deaths and improve outcomes for babies and families in Wales?

Can I thank the Member for raising this really crucially important issue, an issue that I hope unifies us as a Senedd in wanting to see action? I'm very pleased that the Business Committee this morning chose to have a Member's debate on this very issue next week. There will, of course, be a full Government response during that debate. Like you, I have received casework on this heartbreaking situation and I think we all acknowledge the devastating impact of losing a baby at any stage of pregnancy. So, I'm glad that we found cross-party consensus this morning to have that Member's debate, and I very much look forward to seeing how we can work cross-party on such an important issue.

Can I raise my concerns about the fact that an announcement to extend childcare was made to the media prior to its being made to this Senedd Chamber? This is where announcements of that sort ought to be made, Trefnydd, and I think it's incumbent upon all Welsh Governments to honour and respect Members of this Senedd by bringing their announcements to this Senedd first, in order that they can be properly scrutinised.

Secondly, can I call for a statement on the support that is available for carers in Wales? Last week was Carers Week, and one of the things that many carers suffer from is complete burn-out because of the support that they're giving to their loved ones. There is a need for a statutory right to respite in my view and in the view of the Welsh Conservatives, and I would like to know what the new Welsh Government's attitude is towards that.

Finally, can I request an update from the Welsh Government, the new Welsh Government Cabinet Minister for Rural Resilience and Sustainability, on the action that the Welsh Government is taking in order to develop and support the development and roll-out of a squirrelpox vaccine in order to protect the red squirrel population in Wales, which I am very proud to say that I continue to be the species champion for?

Can I thank the Member for raising three points?

On childcare, I think that every Member in this Chamber is fully aware of Plaid Cymru's policy position and that this announcement was in line with our policy position in terms of the roll-out.

On the second point, points were made last week and raised in the business statement around Carers Week. I made my views clear there in terms of our support for carers, and further information will be provided in due course.

Regarding the squirrelpox vaccine, may I suggest that you write to the Cabinet Secretary for that update? And I'm proud to see that you are continuing that long tradition of being the champion for the red squirrel in this Senedd.

I would like to request a statement from the Cabinet Minister for Finance regarding the allocation of regional funding to Wales. As Members will know, Llinos Medi, the MP for Anglesey, drew attention to the significant gap of £86 million between the £633 million that was supposed to come to Wales through the local growth fund and the £547 million that actually came to Wales. This, once again, is an example of how the UK Labour Government has undermined devolution in Wales.

However, it's important to remember that the Welsh Government has control over how that £547 million can be spent. The previous Government decided to allocate 70 per cent of the funding to capital expenditure and 30 per cent to revenue. In speaking to the third sector, one message has emerged consistently: this division does not offer long-term stability, and nor does it enable the sector to maintain and strengthen core services, which are essential for communities like Merthyr Tydfil. Therefore, I'd like to ask the Minister: will the new Welsh Government be prepared to reconsider this allocation in order to ensure that more revenue funding is available to prioritise those core services that sustain our communities?

May I thank the Member for raising this important issue? I am on the record in trying to push the previous Government in this area, as are many others in this Chamber. First of all, I'd like to recognise the financial pressures that those sectors do face and the truly valuable work that they do. We were consistent in opposition in terms of how vulnerable this decision left these organisations and the impact that this would have on people in our communities.

The Cabinet Minister for Enterprise, Connectivity and Energy is reviewing the arrangements for the local growth fund that were agreed on between the previous Welsh Government and the UK Government. The first block of funding has already been allocated to local government for 2026-27, and we will keep these transitional arrangements under review to monitor progress.

Trefnydd, can we have a statement from the Cabinet Minister for enterprise on the decision by Marshall Land Systems to relocate its operations to Merthyr Tydfil? At a time of heightened global tensions, and with instability and indecision on defence spending rising in Westminster, Wales must play its part in continuing to support Britain's defence industry and seek opportunities such as this to expand our manufacturing base across Wales. This investment is a major vote of confidence in Merthyr and south Wales, bringing skilled jobs and long-term opportunities to a deprived area. The Welsh Government must ensure that Welsh workers and businesses benefit fully, and go further by positioning Pontypridd Cynon Merthyr, alongside neighbouring Valleys, as a hub for defence and advanced manufacturing, driving high-skilled jobs and much-needed investment. Diolch.

I thank the Member for raising this issue, and I should declare, Dirprwy Lywydd, that this is within the constituency that I represent, and this is an issue that I will be engaging with the Government on as a local Member. What I would ask the Member to do, because of the nature of what he has raised—. Of course, it is relevant to the statement of priorities that was made by the Minister, but I would recommend that the Member does write to the Cabinet Minister and ensures that that response does come back to him formally.

Ambulance waiting times I'd like a statement on, please. Emergency category 1 red ambulance response times in the Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board are now facing severe and over delays, as a result, of course, of something I raised last week, that being corridor care. So many examples are coming in through my mailbox of our vulnerable elderly adults lying for hours, sometimes outside. It's just not acceptable. So could I have—? I actually submitted a freedom of information that showed that 2,149 people were declared life extinct whilst in an ambulance in the 24 months leading up to December 2025. Will the Cabinet Minister for health or yourself clarify what actions you are actually doing to reduce the waiting times? How are they working with the ambulance trust to ensure that the 45-minute target is now adhered to, rather than what can be often where the paramedic goes home, leaving a patient in an ambulance with a new member of staff coming on, coming back the next morning seeing that same patient? It's unacceptable, and we need urgency on this now.

Well, may I thank the Member for raising an issue that is, of course, extremely important? And I would, of course, always encourage the Member, when there are cases that she is aware of, to continue to engage directly with the Minister for health to ensure that the department can respond and are aware of that. You will be aware that the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care has outlined his priorities where there is a determination to tackle this issue, certainly, and there will be further opportunities to raise questions with him directly through questions to him as Minister.

Once again, during recent days, the residents of Chirk have endured unhealthy odours and serious environmental pollution coming from the direction of the Kronospan factory. Residents point out that when the chemical odours are present, they are followed shortly afterwards by a thick layer of dust that covers everything, which increases concern that it's connected with the output of a tower known as WESP 32. The difficulty is a lack of timely monitoring systems and there is a need for a permanent pollution monitoring system that measures pollution in real time. It is difficult for residents and regulators to prove exactly what kind of pollution is emerging at these times. We therefore need a complete, accurate and timely monitoring system, transparency and assurance that the information is available for all to see. Could I request a statement from the relevant Minister about this situation? Thanks.

May I thank the Member for raising this issue and making us aware of the latest position in relation to this? It is extremely important that environmental regulators do use the powers that they have, including ensuring that public health and the environment are protected. It's important that the public continue to report any problems emerging from this site to Natural Resources Wales. You will be aware that there is an investigation by NRW in light of certain problems on this site, and the Cabinet Minister is keeping a very close eye on that, so that that monitoring can happen and that we do ensure that the regulators use the powers available to them.

I would be grateful if the education Minister could bring forward a statement on the future of rural village schools in Wales, particularly where local authorities are bringing forward closure proposals, despite strong community concern. In Pembrokeshire, village schools such as Manorbier VC School and Ysgol Clydau are facing closure. When the village school closes, the village does not just lose a building, it loses its heart. Families are drawn away and often the shops, services and community spaces close too.

These schools also provide a very particular kind of education. For some children, especially those with additional learning needs, autism, anxiety and sensory difficulties, this is where they are best able to cope and learn. At a time when children's mental health is declining and more children are struggling and feeling unable to attend school, we should be protecting the small nurturing schools where some children best thrive. The Welsh Government says rural schools should be protected. I therefore ask the education Minister to bring forward a statement setting out whether the current protections for rural village schools are strong enough and what steps the Welsh Government will take to ensure local councils cannot close them without fully providing that every alternative has properly been explored. Thank you.

I thank the Member for raising this issue. The Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language is here and has heard that. Evidently, she does have a statement on her priorities this afternoon, where all Members have the opportunity to raise relevant issues. So, clearly, you have given a forewarning perhaps of something that you will raise, which will help the Minister in terms of her preparation. And, certainly, I would always encourage Members to raise local issues by writing to the Cabinet Ministers.

Business Minister, can I please request a statement from the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Care on the all-Wales cardiology and radiology consumable framework for 2027? Concerns have been raised with me, personally, that the proposed procurement approach may give insufficient weight to whole-life value, patient outcomes, clinical input, innovation and sustainability, with significant weighting instead placed upon upfront product costs. By putting more of an onus on cost instead of whole-life value, this runs the risk of costing more in the long term. So, for anyone like me who doesn't have a medical degree, a cheaper replacement heart valve may seem appealing, but could also come at an increased risk of major post-operative implications, significantly higher adverse events and less evidence of durability, which would be worse for the patient and for the system in the short to medium term. Not only will this be beneficial to the public purse, but it is also better for the patient's health and well-being. Given the Welsh Government's commitment to value-based procurement and the potential long-term implications for patient care and NHS Wales costs, can time be made for a statement on how Ministers are ensuring that this framework reflects best value for the NHS in Wales? Thank you.

I thank the Member for raising that issue. You will have heard the comments made in relation to procurement earlier by the First Minister, but, clearly, this is a very specific issue that you have raised. Now, because of the nature of your request, I would kindly request that you write to the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to ensure that you do get as full a response as required, and also, because of the nature of the information that you have, in order to ensure that you do get that response. Clearly, those answers can be available to all Members of the Senedd.

I would like to declare an interest that a member of my family works in the advocacy service. I'd like to request a written statement from the Deputy Minister for social care about the Supreme Court's ruling to significantly narrow the circumstances in which a person who is considered to lack mental capacity is deprived of their liberty. The court's decision means that many individuals living in care homes, supported living arrangements, and other care settings can now fall outside the scope of the protections under article 5, and their voice through an independent mental capacity advocate, if they are considered to be satisfied with their care arrangements.

Along with many within the care sector, I am concerned that the loss of critical external and independent scrutiny will lead to many disabled people losing their human rights and receiving care that runs counter to their needs and wishes. I would therefore like a statement that outlines how the Welsh Government will respond to the Supreme Court's ruling, and how it will ensure that safeguards and a voice through an advocate remain in place for individuals who face fundamental changes to their care provision as a result.

May I thank the Member for raising an extremely important issue? The Welsh Government is fully aware of this significant decision, and the Welsh Government is considering the impact it will have on applying the Mental Capacity Act 2005 in Wales. We will continue to work with the UK Government to understand the implications of the judgment in Wales in full, and to ensure consistency in messaging to local health boards and local authorities. There will be an update to the Senedd once we have given full consideration to the implications of this for Wales.

Good afternoon, Trefnydd.

Can I request a statement please on NHS dentistry? We have a desperate situation, I know, across Wales, and many people have heard from constituents around not being able to access an NHS dentist.

In my own constituency, including Powys, we know that there are 4,600 adults and 270 children on the dental waiting list in Powys, with the health board actually saying that the numbers of children are rising. And across Wales, we know that NHS dental coverage has fallen from 53 per cent to just 40 per cent today. And for children in Wales, only 48 per cent receive NHS treatment, as opposed to 90 per cent in Scotland. So, somehow, they're getting it right in Scotland.

I'd like to, if possible, ask for a statement to the Senedd on NHS dentistry. We didn't hear that in the Minister's statement, and I know it affects more than just me, but others as well. Diolch yn fawr iawn.

I thank the Member for raising such an important issue for everyone in this Chamber. And I think it is important to recognise that it is difficult to gain access, and that particularly in rural areas such as Powys, it's even harder. Certainly, the Government is committed—there were specific commitments in our manifesto—to look at the contract in terms of NHS dentistry. You'll be aware that many Members who are part of the Government now had campaigned for opening a new dental hospital in order to tackle the gaps that exist, and then it's about how we ensure consistency across Wales.

Of course, it is a problem in urban areas as well, but there is a specific problem here. And I will certainly ask the Cabinet Minister for Health and Care to ensure that there is an update on dentistry to the Senedd.

Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd. Trefnydd, can I ask the Government for a statement on improving fire safety in Wales? I'm particularly interested in the tightening up of safety arrangements for buildings or premises that are occasionally used for events. Concerns have been raised with me, questioning whether these kinds of sites always comply fully with the law. If they don't, of course, this could put the safety of people who attend such events at risk. I would like the Government to consider introducing, through the fire service, a regime of inspections during performances or during events, in order to improve safety and to possibly avoid some of the horrendous incidents that we have seen in other countries in recent years. The previous Government was monitoring the lessons that needed to be learned from the incident in Switzerland. So, I would appreciate a statement to update the Senedd on that work. Thank you.

I thank the Member for raising an issue that, of course, is of great importance. We saw, of course—. I'm sure we all remember seeing how horrific that situation was in Switzerland, and how many young people were affected and families' lives changed forever. Certainly, you'll be aware that public buildings and commercial buildings are regulated by very strict fire regulations, which insist that employers and owners take every step possible to reduce risk. Not doing that can be considered a very serious offence. So, certainly, that regulation is there; how it's implemented is what needs to be looked at. I will ensure that we look at what further work needs to be done, and there will be an update. I would also encourage every Member, including the Member who raised this issue, that, if you are aware of any specific issues, I would encourage you to ensure that they are reported, but also that you do make the Cabinet Minister aware of those issues. Thank you.

Formally.

No education system can succeed unless we support the workforce that makes it possible. We must work collaboratively with our educators on improving education, unlocking the incredible creativity and potential that is in our workforce, investing in them, trusting them, supporting them and offering accessible professional learning opportunities.

We have begun to tackle the crisis in recruitment. Prospective secondary teachers in subjects where there is a shortage of teachers will receive up to £20,000 while in initial teacher education. This is just the beginning. Too many educators leave the profession too early. We need to improve learning conditions and keep them in the classroom, including giving clear national guidance on the challenges that they face.

Schools are a microcosm of our society. I've seen first-hand the challenges they face around mental health issues, children with additional learning needs, technology, and the continuing side effects of COVID. Our leaders, classroom teachers and support staff tackle these complex social issues on a daily basis. They do it with great care and little fanfare. This Chamber may not yet reflect the remarkable diversity of our society, but it isn't so in our schools. There, the excitement, the possibilities, the creativity and the challenges of society can clearly be seen.

Just one example: there is growing evidence of the impact of smartphones and social media on our children. Our schools are a place to learn, and teachers are there to teach. I welcome the UK Government's statement on banning social media for under-16s. This is not a devolved issue, of course, and the details around implementation will be important. Therefore, we will be looking forward to more in-depth discussions with the UK Government, and following closely what is happening in this policy area in other places, such as Australia, which introduced this ban earlier.

Our 100-day plan is clear. We will act with urgency. I have heard the calls for greater clarity on the use of mobile phones in our schools. Today, I am confirming that we will be limiting the use of mobile phones in our schools. In September, we'll begin a consultation on statutory guidance in this area, listening to our teachers and parents and taking action. I want to be particularly clear on this: as Cabinet Minister, I fully support and strongly encourage headteachers to introduce clear and robust restrictions on mobile phone use during the school day, up to and including a full restriction across the school site.

It is vital that we have an inclusive education system, and so we will ensure that the support for children with additional learning needs is clearer for families and for our whole system. We have committed to developing a sustainable model for ALN education following years of significant pressure.

The Welsh language is a core part of that inclusive education system. The Welsh language belongs to us all, and I want to ensure a fair opportunity for every child in Wales to learn and enjoy the Welsh language by implementing the full potential of the Welsh Language and Education (Wales) Act 2025. As well as strengthening provision in bilingual and English-medium schools, we want to lay the foundations to ensure that 50 per cent of our children receive Welsh-medium education by 2050—the most ambitious target by any Government in terms of the growth of the Welsh language. We will expand Welsh language provision during the early years on the one hand, and in further and higher education on the other, removing barriers to Welsh-medium education and ensuring a continuous and uninterrupted language education pathway.

Poverty affects the potential of our children and young people. Our children are our future, and their ability to learn should not be impacted by the cost of living. That's why our manifesto also included a commitment to extend free school meals to pupils in secondary schools on universal credit. I'll share more details about this soon.

The education system must function as one connected national system. Learners don't experience education in silos, and Governments shouldn't formulate policy in that way either. We will adopt a much more collaborative approach between schools, colleges, universities, training providers and employers, because when the system works together, outcomes improve and learners are better supported.

That is particularly important in the transition from statutory education to tertiary education or employment. With regard to the Welsh language, we know that too many young people lose contact with the language at this time, as the opportunities to keep in touch are significantly reduced. For too many young people, the system feels complex and fragmented. That means that potential is lost, that they too often find themselves in a situation where they're not in work, education or training. Our role is to create clearer pathways to provide better advice and guidance and to better support our learners to continue to study, train and work in Welsh as well as in English, and also to learn from experience and global evidence.

We cannot either separate education from the Welsh economy. If we want to see a stronger Wales, a stronger economy, better paying jobs, we need a stronger skills system. That's why we've embarked on an all-Wales skills audit to understand future skills needs and ensure that our policy decisions are aligned with the demands of the future economy and the demands of our employers. In the autumn, we will be hosting a skills summit with representation from the worlds of education, skills, training and business, our research centres, colleges and universities to create one vision, one direction, one system that works better for learners and the economy.

Our universities are central to our plans for a more prosperous Wales. Research of global importance takes place in our universities, often without being adequately recognised. A better connection and interconnectedness with the economy is needed. Yes, there are serious challenges facing our universities, but we are equally serious about working with the sector to create a more sustainable higher education system that works for Wales and for our learners. In the coming weeks, we will announce how we will implement our commitment to review the funding for our universities to ensure that the benefit of Welsh Government investment remains in Wales. Too much young talent is being lost. I want to encourage more people to stay in Wales, to study in Wales and build their future here, because they see that our universities, our economy and our nation have a lot to offer them.

This Government has made education a priority because the future of Wales depends on us doing that. Our economic ambitions depend on the education system, our public services depend on it. Without a strong education system, we won't be able to unlock the full potential of Wales.

We do need to be honest: it will be difficult and challenging at times, we know that, and tough decisions will need to be made from time to time. But our vision is clear, and we ask our partners in the education sector to work with us to achieve it.

This Government will focus relentlessly on raising standards, supporting the workforce, strengthening skills and building an education system that works for all learners, in Welsh and English—in our two national languages—and above all else, for Wales. Thank you very much.

I thank the Cabinet Minister for Education and the Welsh Language for the statement this afternoon. There's much that I can agree with in that statement. Clearly, making sure that we recruit teachers into key subjects is vitally important in order to fill gaps. Attracting teachers into the profession is crucial, and I look forward to hearing exactly how the Welsh Government will fund this offer.

What concerns me ever so slightly about the statement is while there's been a lot of emphasis on recruitment, there's not quite enough detail when it comes to retention. What precisely is the Welsh Government going to do to retain the teaching workforce we already have? Cabinet Minister, you acknowledged in your statement today that too many educators leave the profession too early and that we need to keep them in the classroom. On that point, I agree, but the question is: how? What specifically is going to change for teachers working in our schools?

Having been a teacher myself, I understand why many are leaving the profession. Despite successive recruitment drives, Wales continues to struggle with teacher retention. We're losing experienced teachers faster than we can replace them. That concern is only amplified by our shared ambitions for bilingual and Welsh-medium education. The challenge is not simply finding teachers; it's finding teachers with the language skills needed to deliver those ambitions. Every experienced bilingual teacher who leaves the profession is not easily replaced. If we're already struggling to retain the workforce we have today, how can the Government realistically hope to deliver the workforce it will need tomorrow?

Cabinet Minister, you say that you want to address issues associated with workload, but I would like to know, and I think teachers would like to know, what exactly that means. Where are the tangible changes our current teachers can expect to see? So far, there's been very little detail about what workload reduction would look like in practice. Thinking of the secondary sector, for example, would there be time off timetables to mark mock exams and controlled assessments?

More notably, there was very little mention of what has undoubtedly become one of the biggest problems facing education, and that is the deterioration of pupil behaviour in schools. Cabinet Secretary, where is the confidence and determination to get to grips with the rise of violence in schools? A recent Welsh teaching union survey found that 43 per cent of teachers had been shoved or barged by pupils, 12 per cent had been hit or punched, 9 per cent had been kicked, and 3 per cent reported being headbutted. Almost half—and this is particularly distressing—said that they felt blamed when raising those concerns about poor behaviour. Behaviour is now one of the biggest barriers to teacher retention, yet today's statement has remarkably little to say about it. A teacher in my constituency, for example, recently said, 'For the first time in my 25-year career, I don't feel safe in school'.

I really don't think today's statement will have instilled much confidence in our teaching workforce that the Welsh Government intends to get to grips with violent behaviour or unsustainable workloads. And if it can't get to grips with those two things, we will continue to lose our teachers. Cabinet Secretary, in your statement today, you also said the education system is currently failing too many of our children and young people, and on that point, I absolutely agree. But what I find slightly extraordinary is that Plaid Cymru now seems to be talking about the state of Welsh education, as though they spent the last 26 years glued to the opposition benches. Plaid Cymru has spent years helping Labour govern Wales, shaping budgets, legislation and education policy.

Indeed, Plaid Members are often keen to remind us of the achievements delivered through their agreements with Labour, whether that's free school meals, childcare expansion or other policies. They're more than happy to stand up and claim the credit for those successes. But Plaid Cymru can't have it both ways. If they want to claim credit for the successes of working with Labour, they must also accept responsibility for the failures. They cannot claim ownership of free school meals one minute, then pretend to be an innocent bystander when educational standards fall short the next, because teachers, parents and pupils don't care which party gets the credit. They care about outcomes. And after more than two decades of Labour Government, supported at various times by Plaid Cymru, those outcomes simply aren't good enough.

So, I end by asking this: can you reassure this Senedd that you are speaking directly to teachers and teaching unions about how exactly your Government will improve teacher working conditions? Because the reality is that recruitment alone will not solve this problem. A change of culture is needed. You can recruit all the new teachers you like, but if your experienced teachers continue leaving the profession, Welsh education will simply be running to stand still. Every one of us here can remember a teacher who changed our lives. The problem is that experience takes years to build, but only a moment to lose. If this Government fails to address workload and behaviour in detail, Wales will continue to lose our best teachers, and when teachers leave, it is not the Ministers who pay the price, it is our children. Diolch yn fawr.

Thank you very much for those questions. I'll go through them, but I can also assure the Member opposite that I'm looking forward to collaborating with her and with the other education spokespeople—I know that we're arranging meetings at present—because she has a valuable contribution and valuable experience to offer in this area. And I would say, for my part and hers, that we've not been glued to anywhere for the last 27 years. We've both been working in the education system. But I won't apologise either for putting pressure on the previous Government on issues such as free school meals, which are making a considerable difference to families under pressure.

I do agree with her that retaining teachers is just as important as recruiting them, particularly considering the significant investment that the Welsh education system does put into the process of training teachers. I've said often that I'm of the opinion that this is the most important professional role in our society—and I'm sure that some people here will disagree, but that is my view—and that we then need to retain that experience within the classroom. As part of our work, I can also assure her that we will be working with teachers and local authorities and with unions in the social partnership that we have to look at how we can proceed with the detailed work on reducing the workload, and tackling, to all intents and purposes, the conditions that teachers are working in, and that's very important work that does build on some of the work that was done by the previous Government, but we're very aware that there's a lot more to do. So, I do welcome her emphasis on that and agree with that.

Regarding behaviour as well, we have committed in the manifesto to work on a framework that will assist us to tackle some of the issues that are causing problems in our schools and causing problems for the workforce, and we're enthusiastic, then, about ensuring that we do make a real difference. So, we have a plan to move forward in this area. We know that it does affect our ability to retain teachers in the classroom. There are broader social challenges that do affect children and young people in our schools. The responsibility for dealing with those can't always rest just with the schools. Collaborating with agencies and other support is vitally important too.

I noticed the references to flexibility. I'm keen to look at the extent to which we can introduce an element of flexibility within the school term to see whether we can reduce the burden to focus on other priorities. I think you referred to exams, but I do think it's important to look at the extent to which we can offer professional learning experiences, for example, if we can create a more flexible timetable. So, there is a lot of work to be done, but we are taking steps to start that work, and we'd be very pleased to receive any support and contribution and experience that others in this room can offer on this work. So, thank you very much.

Can I congratulate the Cabinet Minister on her appointment? It is, without any shadow of a doubt, the very best job in Government, and I wish her well with it.

If I can turn to questions on the statement. I wanted to start with literacy and numeracy, which was a priority for me too. I think that she will benefit from the over £10 million-worth of investment that we provided for literacy initiatives. I wanted to ask specifically about the CAL:ON Cymru programme, which was very well received by the ministerial heads advisory group and Dysgu, to ask whether she will continue with that.

I agree with her points about data. I had been working to improve the data sharing, and I wanted to ask whether she will be continuing the work that we as a Government were doing around producing clear age-related expectations, so that we can make sure that our children are learning what they need to.

Dysgu, obviously, have a crucial role to play, so I wanted to ask whether she had made any amendments to the priorities of literacy, numeracy, inclusion and well-being that were issued to Dysgu by the previous Government.

There's a section in the statement on workforce. It's relatively small. I would highlight the fact that there are significant concerns about the fact that this Government has delayed the response to the independent Welsh pay review body report on teachers' pay. I'm sure she's well aware that that will likely lead to teachers not being paid in September, whereas we had made a commitment to consult before the school holidays in order to protect time for our teaching staff.

The debate last week gave me some concerns about the strategic education workforce plan for schools. Now, that wasn't just my plan—that plan was co-produced with the sector. There was widespread consultation and work with trade unions. So, I'd like to ask her if she is still committed to that workforce plan, which is so important for recruitment and retention.

There was a brief mention in the statement of ALN. You're well aware of my concerns about ALN funding. What representations have you made across the Government to prioritise more funding for ALN? And I agree with you that we need better support for families who have children with ALN. There was a review of advocacy services submitted to the Government just before the election. What are your plans in terms of better advocacy for families? It is my view that we should have a national independent advocacy service to make sure that families can navigate the system.

I wanted to ask particularly about mental health. I'm very proud of our record on mental health in schools, our whole-school approach, statutory framework, school counselling in schools, our child and adolescent mental health services inreach. I did receive a rather worrying written answer from you when I asked about the school counselling toolkit, which was commissioned by the previous Government, paid for by the previous Government and co-produced with the school counselling leads across Wales with the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy. When you answered my question about when it would go out for consultation and it was almost ready, you said, 'The exact timing is to be agreed, having regard to the need to co-ordinate the range of activity across the education department in line with our manifesto commitments'. There is no reason to delay that work. It is essential to ensure that young people have consistent, high-quality access to school counselling. And if I might say, politics can never ever come before the mental health of children and young people.

If I can just briefly touch on tertiary education: I agree entirely that it's an interconnected system and that we need a more collaborative approach between the different sectors. Yet, the only solution you've so far offered in terms of the huge challenges facing the tertiary sector is a review into higher education. There's no recognition in the statement of the challenges facing further education, which are substantial. So, I wanted to ask you how you intend to make that interconnected sector a reality and make sure that there is parity for FE in your considerations.

Just finally, you've referred to embarking on an all-Wales skills audit. In actual fact, that audit was undertaken, or initiated and signed off, by the previous Labour Government. Now, I have no problem at all with you continuing the good work of that Government, but I think it's important that there is transparency about that. Diolch.

Diolch yn fawr. If I can start by agreeing with her that this is definitely the best job in Government, and I think she and I can agree very happily on that. If I miss any of your points, I will come back to them and write to you, if I can. I hope I wrote them all down.

In terms of the literacy and numeracy foundational framework, that is work that is ongoing now. The CAL:ON programme and the materials and resources that that is developing is certainly part of what we want to offer in that space. Valuable work is being done in Bangor University, I think—led by Bangor University—in that field, and also around synthetic phonics, which, obviously, we want to work with. And as we published in our manifesto, the clear age-related expectations are a core part of that plan.

Dysgu is the body tasked with aligning educational priorities with professional learning opportunities—an offer, I suppose, for the teaching workforce. It is a very new body, it has a lot to do. I will have an early meeting with them to make sure that they are comfortable, and that we are all comfortable that they are able to do all the work that has been allocated to them, and that we are equally happy with the prioritisation of that work.

The pay review body—she will be aware also that I have received the report. It is a report covering a long list of areas. I think she will remember, too, that it is sensible to take time to consider the recommendations of that pay award body and that previous Governments have also found that they would need to take proper time over the summer, before coming to a firm conclusion about that.

I will write to her, if I may, on the school counselling programme, because I don't feel well-enough informed to give you a full answer now. The same is true of the advocacy service.

On tertiary, though, we do know that further education colleges—. As I said, this should be seen as a continuous, whole system, so I hope I didn't indicate to her or anybody else that it has a lesser place in that one national plan than any other element. That was certainly not my intention. We do know that FE colleges are experiencing challenges born of the fact that they have a greater number of learners than perhaps they had planned for, and the same is forecast for coming years. So, I've already had a conversation with Medr around this, and she will be aware that they have allocated—they allocated, rather—additional investment to support that.

On mental health as well, obviously mental health will be a priority for us in schools as well. We know it is a significant factor, and any factors that influence or hinder learners from making the progress we want them to make, we want to see them making, we will make sure that the support is there to support them.

Thank you, Cabinet Minister, for your statement, and for sharing it in advance also, and for your early engagement. I declare an interest as an LEA governor as well. I agree with you, Cabinet Minister, that education should be giving every young person in Wales the best possible start in life, but parents across Wales are all asking the same question: is this system delivering the standards our children deserve? And unfortunately, the answer right now to that question is 'no'; the system is not delivering the standards our children deserve. The fact is that we are spending more per head in Wales than in England, yet outcomes continue to lag behind.

So, I wonder, as my first question, Cabinet Minister, if you have a view as to the biggest reason why there continues to be a gap, despite that sustained investment over time. It's not enough to point to increased spending; we have to be honest about whether that money is translating into better outcomes for learners. And you've rightly pointed to the desired focus on standards. The reality is that we continue to see Wales at or near the bottom of UK education rankings, and consistently doing poorly on international PISA rankings, with too many young people still leaving school without secure literacy and numeracy skills. That's a long-standing issue and one that requires urgent attention and clear accountability. And in particular, on those PISA rankings, I wonder if you have a target in mind as to where you want Wales to be at the end of this Senedd term to show progress in relation to all-important standards, and also a position that you want to be held accountable for in terms of those PISA rankings.

Attendance remains below that of pre-pandemic levels—I agree with you that there has to be a focus on attendance—falling from 94 per cent to around 91 per cent currently. For some of the most vulnerable learners, particularly those eligible for free school meals, persistent absence remains far too high. So, I wonder what further action will be taken to engage with parents to drive up attendance and ensure consistency across all schools, particularly for those disadvantaged pupils.

We're also, as we've heard, seeing pressures on the system itself. We know that teacher numbers and support staff numbers have fallen in recent years, while demands on schools have increased. And Cabinet Minister, you mentioned the new teacher initiative of £20,000 to encourage new teachers into the system. But you'll also know that, in England, new teachers are offered £30,000 to start teaching. So, I wonder how you think you'll address that gap of £30,000 to start teaching in England but £20,000 to start teaching here in Wales.

On mobile phones in schools, this has been an issue raised consistently by teachers and headteachers, and by the Welsh Conservatives in this Chamber as well. And new survey findings published today by the Welsh Conservatives also reinforce this concern, showing mobile phone restrictions are widely seen as having positive impacts on reducing distraction, improving behaviour, tackling bullying and supporting learner well-being. I welcome your statement, your commitment, to consult on statutory guidance to limit mobile phone use in schools. But can you confirm today whether the Welsh Government intends to take a more consistent, national approach to mobile phone use in schools, or whether it will continue to leave these decisions entirely to individual schools without a national framework in place?

You acknowledged, Cabinet Minister, the importance of higher education to the Welsh economy, and indeed Lynne Neagle also picked up on this point, because it, of course, helps create jobs and growth. However, we know that fewer students are going to university here in Wales than in England, which is putting pressure on universities and how they are funded. I believe if we connect universities, apprenticeships and the needs of the economy more closely, we can keep higher education strong, make it more accessible and ensure it's financially sustainable in the long term. But I'd be keen to hear your views on the future of the sector. I appreciate you've answered that, in part, to Lynne Neagle a moment ago, but I would be keen to hear that in a little more detail, to give that assurance to our higher education providers.

Deputy Presiding Officer, this is a system that the new Welsh Government has inherited, a system with clear and persistent challenges, so the question that needs answering now is not linked to blame, but about direction and outcomes. Because, ultimately, people will judge this Welsh Government not on plans or statements, but on whether things actually improve in the classroom, and, in my role in this place, that's what I will continue to do to scrutinise your decisions. Diolch yn fawr iawn.

Thank you very much for those questions. I welcome his commitment to scrutinise the progress that we make over the period of this Senedd. That's exactly the kind of debate we want in an area as important as this, and people's expertise across the Chamber and the concise questions that will be asked over the next years will be important in holding ourselves to account, just as my colleague here—I can't remember his title—demonstrated to us. Because it's those outputs that will be important in ensuring that we can say to the people of Wales that we have succeeded in our priority areas and that we can share that information with people to demonstrate that progress, and we will share those details here too.

There is a gap. Our education system isn't where we would like it to be. I think there is agreement on that among the workforce and broader society, and that is why we are focused on these fundamentals and are deliberately setting targets whereby we can hold ourselves to account, and also that there are clear expectations in terms of the discussions that we're having with local authorities and schools. In the absence of that, it's sometimes difficult for people to see what progress is being made. So, I also commit to that.

In terms of PISA, the PISA results will be published again in September. I will very deliberately take the most meaningful information from that. It's about more than just numbers. There’s a lot of data that we can use there, and we can use that meaningfully in order to inform our numeracy and literacy plans. But, in addition to that, I'm very eager that we should have an understanding of the performance of our education system during the next months and years, and that we're not always reliant on looking back, which is what PISA allows us to do, but that we have a detailed understanding of how the system is performing now.

I also accept his point on teacher recruitment. When we made the announcement last week increasing the support to £20,000 for those training in those areas where we have a shortage of teachers, we committed to that for the period of the Senedd, and to do so to the same level as is available in England.

In terms of mobile phones and the request for national directives and guidance, there is no national directive or guidance at the moment, and that's the exact intention: to move to statutory guidance from September onwards. So, I do hope that that gives him some comfort in that area too.

I think his final point was on universities and apprenticeships, and bringing our consideration of the tertiary sector together so that one can support the other. Now, in that regard, I do think that that aligns fully with the comments I made on the need for having a single national system, and that support for that idea is to be welcomed, also in the way that it can contribute to the sustainability of the sector in the long term. But also we are currently prioritising that commitment to review the funding system for HE and are moving to put that process in place in the next few weeks. Thank you.

May I also thank the Cabinet Minister for today's statement?

As others have already indicated, Wales has the lowest PISA scores in the UK and is significantly below the OECD average. This is not good enough, and so I welcome the Cabinet Minister's commitment to improving this for the good of our young people and our country.

I am a governor in two excellent schools, Ysgol Gynradd Gymraeg Llwyncelyn and Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Cwm Rhondda, for which I declare the relevant interests. In those schools, standards and attainment are consistently high, but to improve standards across Wales it is vital that we support the recruitment and retention of teachers. Plaid Cymru's increase of the priority subject teacher incentive will be invaluable in supporting our education system. To build on this and further improve our schools, will the Cabinet Minister outline steps that are being taken to develop a new foundational literacy and numeracy plan?

Thank you very much, Alun Cox, and thank you to the staff at ysgol Llwyncelyn and Cwm Rhondda too for the valuable work that they do. We are currently working on the numeracy and literacy plan. I have already committed that the focus will be on support and targets—that's the kind of plan that we are putting together. I have already committed to sharing more detail on our direction of travel with schools by the end of the summer term so that they have an idea of what they will be dealing with in the new academic year—I think that's important in and of itself—and I will share more specific details in the autumn.

Another point that I would wish to make is on the fact that many of our schools are working effectively and providing standards that we should aspire to across the board. So, there is an element here of drawing on that expertise and feeding it more effectively into the system in order to ensure that we do learn from those schools who are already very successful. I visited one last week, for example, and there was no difference at all in the standards that were attained by pupils who did qualify for free school meals and those that didn't, and that is something that has been a target that's been very difficult to achieve for many years. So, if some schools can deliver that, then there's a great deal more expertise to draw on than perhaps we sometimes think.

Thank you for your statement, Minister. A constituent has raised with me a concern that was not covered in your priority statement today. An issue a constituent has asked me to raise in Plenary with you, Minister, is the support available for children with additional learning needs during school holidays. For many families, the challenges do not stop when term ends, yet access to suitable activities, respite support and other appropriate provision can be inconsistent across local authorities. Can the Minister therefore explain what consideration the Welsh Government is giving to improving and standardising support for ALN pupils and their families outside term time, please?

Diolch yn fawr. Thank you for that question. It's obviously a very important consideration. The way that we support children and young people with additional learning needs is a focus for the entire education system, both in term time and also in school holidays. In terms of the detail for his constituent, I know I have received a few letters from you already, but I would like the opportunity to lay out perhaps in more detail what it looks like in that holiday space where your constituent lives, so I can be as helpful as possible. Diolch.

May I wish the Minister well and say that it's good to see, in her and myself, two former pupils from Ysgol Gymraeg Aberystwyth in the Senedd? That school, of course, was the first Welsh-medium primary school to be established, and it was a cause of pride for me, during my time as leader of Cardiff Council, to deliver significant growth in Welsh-medium education in the capital city. Now, the city is considering how a fourth Welsh-medium secondary school can be opened. Earlier this year, I received a positive response from the Minister for finance at the time, Mark Drakeford, to my request asking the Welsh Government to provide the land that it owns on Callaghan Square to Cardiff Council as a possible site for this new school. Can I have confirmation today from you that that proposal still stands under this new Government?

Can I ask you further and in more general terms, with councils such as Cardiff looking to increase the geographical range of Welsh-medium schools in a period when the birth rate is falling, will you provide further funding to councils to maintain that surplus of places that will exist in current schools as new schools are established?

I thank you for drawing attention to Aberystwyth primary school in the question, an institution that had a huge impact on my education, and for you as well, I'm sure. I'm aware that I need to be very careful in terms of making statements on issues relating to allocating school places, just in case those are issues that Ministers have to comment on in due course. So, rather than committing a breach in my first ever oral statement, could I please ask him for patience so that I can check to what extent I can go into detail on the question that he raised around a fourth Welsh-medium school in Cardiff?

Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd. It's nice to see so many more children throughout south-east Wales now having the opportunity to receive their education through the medium of Welsh. Unfortunately, my parents did not have the same opportunity, but they worked hard to ensure that I, my brother and my sister could learn and use Welsh, as I'm doing today, and that was a right that was not available to them.

Although Blaenau Gwent has one of the lowest percentages of Welsh speakers in Wales, I see every day the efforts being made to change that. Excellent work is taking place through the menter iaith, Cymdeithas Gymraeg Blaenau Gwent, the conversational sessions held in Pentref Tyleri, our first ever bilingual festival, and, of course, the establishment of a new Welsh school in Tredegar. So, Cabinet Minister, what is your vision for strengthening the Welsh language in our Valleys, especially in areas like Blaenau Gwent, where there are challenges but also so much ambition and enthusiasm for the language?

Thank you very much, Niamh, for that question. Whilst we're sharing our personal stories, it's particularly encouraging for me, as the daughter of a mother from Blaenau Gwent who learned Welsh as an adult, to see these opportunities that she didn't have being made available on her own patch now. So, I appreciate the opportunity to draw attention to the great work that's happening in Blaenau Gwent, and in the Valleys more broadly too.

As I mentioned in my statement, the Welsh language belongs to all parts of Wales, and strengthening it as a living language and a language of education is very important and is a priority that we share responsibility for across Government. So, in this area, we will be working with local authorities to deliver the recommendations of the Commission for Welsh-speaking Communities, which is extremely important in areas like Blaenau Gwent, where there are clear challenges but also, as we heard earlier, a great commitment and real ambition and energy to increase use of the Welsh language. So, we will be responding to the commission's second report, and this is pertinent in this context, by the end of 2026—that's this year—setting out a clear plan for acting across areas that have medium and lower densities of Welsh speakers at the moment. Thank you.

I was pleased to announce the Arts Council of Wales's £8 million capital fund to support arts organisations with their infrastructure needs this year. This has been supported by significant audit work to establish needs and priorities, and the work of understanding what the real investment need is will continue.

We will also be actively undertaking work to understand what other investments and organisations Wales needs if we are to realise this vision. And as part of this work, work will continue in relation to our ambition of having a national gallery of contemporary art for Wales.

Llywydd, I've already begun vital cross-governmental discussions about how culture and sport together can be a medical treatment, as well as how they can contribute to our preventative agenda. One example is our commitment to school swimming and making sure that every child leaves primary school with the ability to swim, which is an important skill that can save lives. We will publish an action plan within our first 100 days.

This Government recognises the preventative health and well-being benefits of arts, culture and sport. There is growing evidence that these sectors can support preventative approaches and improve outcomes. In our first 100 days, we are commissioning a review of opportunities for investment in culture, arts and sport to inform the objective of seeing increasing spending in these areas. Just last week, I had a powerful discussion with the arts council about how we can do more in delivering interventions that can have an impact on the calls on the health service. And it is not only national organisations that play a role: our network of local museums, libraries and archives also play a vital role in supporting health and well-being, local economies, and communities across Wales. They are also doing groundbreaking work.

For too long, culture, the arts and sport have been pitted against the NHS rather than being recognised as completely connected to it. These sectors are not a 'nice to have'; they are part of the solution to creating a healthier society. Our manifesto commits to making culture and sport accessible to all. That includes addressing inequalities in access, whether due to cost, geography, disability or other barriers. This commitment includes maintaining free access for all to our national museums, and I have already had positive discussions on this with Amgueddfa Cymru, and further work needs to be done to realise everyone's right to participate in culture and sport.

For a country that is relatively small, the talent and aspiration that we have here in Wales to compete on major international stages is huge, and major events that are held here have to be an important economic, cultural and sporting driver. Opportunities such as the Tour de France and Euro 2028 coming to Wales show how events can provide immediate economic benefits, but also a long-term legacy. This is our opportunity to inspire a new generation and establish legacy plans so that the impact of these events is felt far beyond the event.

Alongside our priorities for culture, sport and heritage, we also want a stronger media environment that reflects a confident and prosperous Wales. My priorities for broadcasting and media are clear. Wales deserves a confident, diverse and sustainable media landscape rooted in public value and national ambition. To achieve this, Wales must have a voice in the decisions that affect us. That is why we are determined to continue to make the case for the devolution of powers over broadcasting. Work has already begun on the establishment of a shadow broadcasting and communications authority for Wales, and this is a vital first step in building the organisational capacity that Wales needs to drive a stronger and more accountable media landscape.

I'm also developing plans to support public-interest journalism and safeguard the provision of high-quality news, so that Wales is well placed to meet the opportunities and challenges of a rapidly changing media landscape in the future.

The Welsh language is an integral part of my priorities, particularly in terms of increasing the social use of the language through participation in culture and sport. This year, we are celebrating 850 years of the National Eisteddfod, an important milestone in our history as a nation. A contribution of £0.25 million from the Government will support a programme of activities to inspire people to use the language and raise the international profile of the National Eisteddfod. Our financial support will also ensure that local low-income families have free access to the festival. It is vital that everybody has an opportunity to enjoy our culture, language and National Eisteddfod.

These priorities mark the beginning of a journey and the beginning of a new chapter for culture and sport here in Wales. At the heart of everything that I will do over the coming years will be realising the vision that I have shared with the Senedd today, to ensure that everybody in Wales can experience, participate in and benefit from our culture and sport. This is because this Government believes in the power of culture and sport to transform lives, to contribute to the vision of moving towards a preventative health agenda to put our health service on a more sustainable footing, and because we are determined to build a Wales where creativity thrives. Thank you.

Thank you for your statement, Minister. I note at the start that you say that the financial situation is challenging, but I must remind you that you were part of the budgetary process for the last few years, so this must come as no surprise, as you signed off the cuts with Welsh Labour. I also notice your objective of seeing increased spending, instead of the pre-election pledge to increase spending on culture, arts and sport year on year over the first term in office as a percentage of the entire Welsh budget. That's gone from a percentage to just an objective. So, I'd like my first question to be this: now you're in Government, what is that percentage of the budget to spend on culture, arts and sport?

I do agree with your sentiment to develop Wales as a cultural and sporting powerhouse, and that work is already under way. That's great. I appreciate you're engaging stakeholders in the first 100 days. Note that that ends on 20 August. It literally is around the summer corner. But when will the Senedd receive and be able to scrutinise the consultation results? That's my second question. And my third question: can I have a written list of stakeholders that you are working with?

I'm glad to hear that sport is to be made accessible to all, especially when it comes to geography. We have great facilities in north Wales. Eirias park in my constituency of Clwyd is a fine example. But when teams and individuals do well enough to get to national competitions or national teams, they always have to head down south, a long four-hour drive with extra costs for fuel and accommodation, a burden on those parents that put so much into their children's sporting lives. From personal experience, I know that no amount of chewy sweets can revive an under-12 hockey team, having spent five hours in the car the night before, playing against a fresh south Walian team who've had a good night's sleep in their own beds. I won't share the result. Alternate locations, north and south, for competitions and training is only fair, so north Walian future sporting stars are not disadvantaged.

I was quite enjoying the Minister's statement until I came to the fourth page, where I read that work has already begun on the establishment of a shadow broadcasting and communications authority for Wales. I'd like to put my response to this into two words: 'completely unnecessary'. This is more constitutional navel-gazing, more quangos, more slow state-building towards independence, and more cost.

Then I read that you're developing plans to support public interest journalism and safeguard the provision of high-quality news. On this side of the Chamber, we feel we already have a state-funded news outlet with blatant political bias, and we don't need any more. I would suggest that state-funded journalism in Wales will mean state-funded interference, and I would also suggest that 'high-quality news' is a highly subjective phrase. Who is going to decide what is high-quality journalism and therefore needs state help? How can we ensure there's no foreign interference, for example? [Interruption.] I'll just wait until you quieten down. How can we ensure there is no foreign interference when allocating Books Council of Wales funding to news outlets? I am very nervous about Government funding the media at any level, as this will affect impartiality, and Reform will not be supportive of this.

Moving on from that, I am really glad to hear that the Welsh language is an integral part of your priorities. The Welsh language is also an integral part of my priorities.

I've been learning Welsh for two years now. I've enjoyed learning the language, but it is difficult. I do need support. I will practice my skills with you at the Eisteddfod this year.

As Welsh learner champion for my previous county council, I'm happy to discuss how you get people like me speaking Welsh. But be aware, the evidence is clear—coercion drives resentment, not fluency. If the Welsh Government is serious about 1 million Welsh speakers, it needs to invest in the conditions that make people choose the language, not mandate it on those who don't speak it. Welsh culture, the arts and sport should lift people up and bring communities together—that we agree on. But they can do that in whatever language they choose. I look forward to working with you, Minister, on all of your objectives. This is what Reform Wales believes about art and culture and sport. It can be a very positive thing. So let's work together. Diolch yn fawr.

I thank the Member for that response. It was very good to hear the Welsh language used there. I look forward to seeing you at the National Eisteddfod. I am asking Members to reimagine what the arts and sports look like with a Government that appreciates their value and is willing to have data and a proper strategy in place. There has been no strategy in this area. Expenditure has been done without data. That's what I've inherited. In opposition, I thought that they were hiding this data from me, but it doesn't actually exist.

In terms of what we need to do, I'm being entirely honest with you now that I want a robust evidence base and data in order to drive the change that we need. In opposition, I grew tired, as a member of a committee, of the same report, published year on year, saying that it's important that we move to a preventative agenda, but nothing at all was changing. When I led a debate on the importance of culture in this Chamber, the Deputy Minister with responsibility for culture was shouting, 'What about the NHS?', rather than seeing the value of this as medical treatment as well as being part of the preventative agenda. So, this is a significant change.

I understand the points that you made on the challenging financial situation, but it's important that we acknowledge and recognise that. And we weren't involved in those cuts. You will have seen, consistently, that cross-party work was done, making the case for investment in culture and sport. And I would encourage every new Member here to look at the work the culture and sport committee carried out during the sixth Senedd, that demonstrated why we must stop making cuts in these areas if we want real change.

That commitment is unambiguous, and what I've outlined today is a cross-party vision—not in silos, but across the parties. I have had really positive conversations with the Deputy Minister for Public and Preventative Health as to how we enable our officials to collaborate. So, in terms of percentages, what you will have in the strategy will be a different way of working, one that will be accountable to this Senedd, but it is a new approach. So I do hope that you will come with us on this journey, that you will also see the value of the work, and that we at last see culture and sport given due attention in this Senedd and from Government.

I didn't expect you to stop there. Minister, I congratulate you on your appointment to this post and hope we can work constructively together. I want to raise today culture, music and the economy. Whilst culture is good and should be supported for that reason, we know it has a wider benefit to the economy and to health, and you mentioned health earlier. I declare an interest as president, vice-president and patron of a number of Swansea-based choirs. Please don't ask me to name them.

How will the Cabinet Minister ensure that Creative Wales has the resources it needs to build on its success since being created by Welsh Labour in 2020 and enable collaboration across culture and the creative industries in relation to a new culture strategy? Will the Cabinet Minister commit to continuing the work of the arts, creative and media sector workforce social partnership forum that was established under the last Welsh Labour Government to support fair work and sustainable careers across the sectors? What are the Welsh Government's plans for a new culture strategy that consults stakeholders, including the unions and those employed in the sector, in relation to the creative professionals who deliver activity across the sector?

Industries such as computer games have no geographical constraints. The computer games industry has a bigger turnover than film or music. There are no geographical constraints, and there are benefits in clustering. As I have said on several occasions in the Chamber previously, one of the world's most popular games, Grand Theft Auto, was created in Dundee. Dundee has a video game centre at Abertay University. There are many gaming companies based in the city. How did it become such a hub for the industry? Dundee's links to the gaming industry began with Lemmings, the hugely popular computer game released in 1991 for the Commodore Amiga. It was written by Dave Jones, a graduate of Abertay University, who then developed Grand Theft Auto. What it had was Government commitment and, more importantly, Government funding. In the first decade of the twenty-first century, the Government invested £2.5 million in Abertay University. There's now a symbiotic relationship between the university and the city's games developers. Investment in universities is much better for our economy than bribing companies to bring branch factories here with the promise of hundreds or thousands of jobs that are rarely fulfilled. Think LG.

Moving to music tourism, the data speaks for itself. In 2024, music touring in Wales attracted 834,000 visitors, supported 3,650 jobs, and generated £384 million for the economy. With the right support, its impact can grow even further. Does the Minister agree we must grow Welsh music through smart public investment, bring down barriers to exporting Welsh music, ensure music education is accessible to all, and support home-grown creativity and new music that drives Welsh tourism? Adopting these initiatives will ensure that the music sector is equipped to thrive, innovate and seize new opportunities, strengthening Wales's cultural and economic impact for generations to come.

Still on the music theme, the music industry and support for the base protects everything that grows from it and secures the long-term sustainable cultural infrastructure. What are your proposals on business rates reform, creating a dedicated cultural classification and music venue definition, ensuring fair valuation and reduced avoidable closures? We also need to ensure that any rates reduction is not taken by landlords as increased rents.

The 'agent of change' law embeds the principles in legislation to develop and manage noise and access around existing venues, reducing conflict and protecting long-standing cultural spaces. I'm sure lots of people here can give examples where there used to be a music place that people used to go to, then houses and flats were built around it, and all of a sudden the people who moved into the houses and flats wanted the music place closed down because it was noisy. The fact they hadn't noticed it was there in the first place was a bit of a surprise.

On safe, affordable late-night transport, we need to invest in late-night services so audiences, artists and staff can travel safely. Far too often events finish after the last bus leaves. A small timetable change can have a major effect. A small timetable change in Swansea with the train meant that people could go to the arena and be able to stay till the very end.

In terms of a grass-roots live music fund, we should establish a Creative Wales fund dedicated to live music programming and talent development, with simple application and fast decisions. When Ed Sheeran sang in Singleton park, he reminded people it was the second time he had been in Swansea. He had played early in his career at a small city centre venue called Sin City. In terms of a community ownership pathway, we should develop a Welsh model for community and co-operative ownership to protect venues on short leases and keep cultural assets in local hands.

I will return to other areas of your portfolio in the future, but I wanted to talk about music and creative industries in my first opportunity.

Could I thank the Member for that contribution and welcome him to his scrutiny role as well?

I'm pleased that you do recognise in that contribution the weakness of the last set of priorities for culture and that the creative industries weren't part of it. That's exactly what we want to rectify with this. The fact that the creative industries are seen as a separate thing has been a great weakness, and that's why we need to relook at a new strategy now. The review of Creative Wales in terms of ensuring that we do see how that works in the most effective way is also very important, because there are very genuinely good things that have emerged from Creative Wales, but there are also ways in which we can ensure that those benefits continue and that we continue to be competitive, because that's a problem as places such as Manchester can compete more with Wales and attract productions and so forth. So, we do need that review.

And I also think—. I was reflecting on your point around Grand Theft Auto. Those are not words I expected to say during my first response as a Minister, but that's where we are. [Laughter.] You mentioned the investment made by Government to enable that partnership with universities. Well, that's exactly what we want to do with this strategy, namely to enable growth in these sectors to ensure that there are jobs here in Wales and the benefits that they bring, because regardless of where you work in those industries, you can be in rural Wales, you can be in a city, you can be in the Valleys—that's a genuine cultural strategy, when we ensure that partnership. The role of universities in terms of ensuring that we do see that happening is vital. But we can see this as a way of attracting young people back to Wales and keeping them here in great jobs. So, I'm very pleased to see the support for that.

The Member will be aware of the situation regarding music here in Wales. There was a report out last year that showed that traditional music, particularly, was in danger of disappearing entirely. We know of organisations that we've all, I'm sure, enjoyed over the years that are fragile or have disappeared. There is a great concern that so many people don't have opportunities to learn an instrument, that we see a lack of bands emerging because of a lack of opportunity, that we see that it's difficult for creative people to maintain a living here in Wales—either they have to leave Wales or they have to change direction entirely.

So, I certainly see this strategy aligning with the skills strategy, because if we look at what's happening in schools at the moment, with fewer children and young people taking GCSEs in music, drama and art, where's that going to leave us in the future? Universities are cutting courses in these areas; they see them as things that are not worth investing in, but they are, of course. So, hopefully we will then see, by looking at this whole range of issues, that there will be a future for creative people here in Wales, and a future for these sectors that are seen as economically beneficial.

May I thank the Cabinet Minister for her statement this afternoon? Today's statement does outline a number of steps that the Welsh Government intends to take to support Wales's cultural, arts and sport sectors. I welcome the renewed commitment from the Cabinet Minister to develop a Welsh culture strategy, and I look forward to seeing how that strategy responds to the long-term structural challenges facing the sector, such as operating costs, inequalities in terms of access and the need to secure sustainable growth for the future.

The Cabinet Minister has confirmed that a consultation on the strategy will happen. Now, previous Governments have been accused of talking to the same institutions and the same people time and again. How will you ensure that this consultation is meaningful and captures a broader range of views?

Now, only if it has sufficient resources can a strategy be effective, so I do hope that the Cabinet Minister will confirm that the Welsh Government's intention is still to provide annual funding for the sector. And although I realise that it's early days still, I would be grateful for a signal as to how much additional funding she intends to provide to the sector at the beginning of this Senedd, given that Wales had the second lowest per capita expenditure on cultural services in Europe, and the third lowest on leisure and sports.

Today's statement does recognise that cultural institutions rely on innovative places that are continuously adapting, and the truth is that we need real support for many of these venues and facilities. The Cabinet Minister has commissioned a review of opportunities for investment in these sectors, and I'd be grateful if we could have more information about that review. For example, with whom is the Welsh Government engaging and who is part of this review process, as well as when will it come to an end? And perhaps she could also tell us what partnerships and external sources she is considering in terms of producing investment in this sector.

Now, in my view, culture is lived through participation, and the Welsh Government is right to highlight the importance of sport for our health and well-being. I'm pleased the Welsh Government is commissioning an investigation into community and regional sports facilities. Unfortunately, too many children and young people still face barriers to participation because of cost, the availability of facilities or geography. So, will the Cabinet Minister set out how the Welsh Government will remove barriers to participation, ensuring that more children and young people can access sporting opportunities throughout Wales?

The Welsh Conservatives believe that culture in Wales exists within both a national and a shared British context, and we are proud of our shared Welsh and British identity. Our creative output reflects distinct Welsh traditions but also contributes to a broader UK cultural landscape, and at a time when collaboration and funding streams often cross borders, the relationship with the UK Government remains crucial. Therefore, can the Cabinet Minister outline how the Welsh Government is working constructively with the UK Government to support the arts in celebrating both our Welsh and British heritage, and also tell us how the Welsh Government is securing its fair share of UK-wide cultural funding and opportunities for our creative industries?

Now, today's statement refers to the Welsh broadcasting and media and the work that has already begun on the establishment of a shadow broadcasting and communications authority for Wales. The Cabinet Minister will be aware that my party does not support the devolution of broadcasting powers, and given the challenges that the Cabinet Minister has already highlighted in her statement today, surely this is not the best possible use of resources, especially given that these powers are not devolved. Therefore, the Cabinet Minister needs to tell us how much this new authority will cost the taxpayer, where that funding will come from, and how it will operate.

Llywydd, in my view the culture sector thrives when organisations have the freedom to innovate, and there is a balance to be struck between leadership and overreach. I hope that the upcoming Welsh culture strategy and any new bodies established by this Government do not come at the expense of their independence. So, can the Cabinet Minister explain how the Welsh Government will ensure it empowers rather than overpowers the culture sector, by explaining how it will protect the sector's autonomy while still delivering on national priorities?

Llywydd, if Wales is to be a truly vibrant cultural nation, then the Welsh Government must not only invest in it, but give it the space to flourish. I believe that empowering cultural organisations, not overpowering them, should be the platform from which this Government works, and I look forward to constructively engaging with the Cabinet Minister in this area going forward. Diolch.

Could I thank the Member for those very important comments? I will give this commitment to the Senedd now: I respect the arm's-length principle. That hasn't always happened, and we have to be clear about that, in terms of Governments of the past. The arm's-length principle is important, and one of the things that I'm looking at is the terms of reference letter, and how it's a genuine partnership between the Government and these bodies, returning to their original purpose. So, that's an absolute commitment, because, to me, this needs to be a national conversation.

You will all as Members be aware of the cuts that have taken place in these areas in respect of things that people genuinely appreciate in our communities, things that people gain genuine benefit from. I think that the great weakness of the strategy that we saw from the previous Government—if you can call it a strategy, because it was a number of sentences that noted, perhaps, some points about culture rather than a strategy—the great weakness was that engagement was carried out with some people, but not with everyone, not with service users and, importantly, those who didn't have a chance to participate. So, rather than pursuing comments from the same organisations, I think it's important that we look at the evidence that emerged, and the work of the new strategy will be to look at those gaps.

There is no Government sports strategy. I would ask Members to look at what the strategy was from the Welsh Labour Government—‘Climbing Higher’—that was meant to be a 20-year strategy. I'm trying to work out at what point that work stopped. Why are we in a situation where those measures or points were not reached? That's something I've asked the officials to explain to me—how, with the same party in power for 27 years, were all the targets missed in that long-term strategy, and what lessons we can learn to ensure that what we do is measurable, ambitious, and that we can also deliver and that that work is not forgotten.

In terms of resources and funding, certainly, the fact that we're looking on a cross-portfolio basis—. If you look at the report made for the Arts Council of Wales by Bangor University and also by Edge Hill University—I'm very happy to share a copy of this—it does show the savings that investment in the arts can make in terms of the health service. There is a potential to save £3.5 million a year in terms of staff sickness and departing staff. So, it's not just about patients, but also staff. In doing this properly, we can save money for the NHS and ensure that there is investment available. So, I do understand that this does change the focus, but I hope that you do see that we are entirely committed to changing this for the benefit of everyone in Wales.

In terms of working with the UK Government, evidently there is a positive partnership in terms of Euro 2028, and I'm looking forward to taking that work forward. And there are other opportunities with major events. I haven't yet met the relevant Ministers, but we do want a constructive relationship where we can collaborate. And certainly, you will get this commitment from me: if there is money available for Wales, I will ensure that we try and get it here to Wales.

Thank you very much for your statement. I have to say, before coming to this meeting today, somebody had written something very nice for me to say, but having heard such an inspiring statement, it has changed what I was going to say, because I do feel, as someone who has worked in the area of arts, culture and the Welsh language for 20 years, that's the best thing I've heard emanating from this room for 27 years, and I'm behind it 100 per cent.

We have to inspire ambition, don't we, and we don't have that without the involvement of the major organisations in Wales. But how do we empower people in communities to have that ambition? That's what's important. So, I have thought of a question. [Laughter.] What actions will be taken to ensure the viability of our organisations at grass-roots level so that they can be in a position to inspire ambition?

Can I also make one further point? [Interruption.] No, okay. I won't make it. [Laughter.]

I thank the Member. I'm very happy to have further conversations outside of this Chamber in order to hear her ideas. Certainly, that's why looking at the situation on the ground is important, not just within our national institutions, but the situation on the ground is so important. It's been surprising for me that we didn't have an understanding of that by the previous Government—that they didn't know what the needs were and where the vulnerabilities were—in order to ensure that every £1 spent is spent as effectively as possible.

Now, I can't tell Members that all the money will be available to do everything that we want during this term—I can't give that commitment—but we need to know what the needs are and we need a plan in place, because what people have told me is that this is also how we can attract sponsorship for many of these projects—to link up with the diaspora, for example—because the Government's commitment will be entirely clear, and we will do our level best to get as much of that necessary investment in place to attract investment. So, that's my commitment to you. We have to understand what the situation is in order to get a proper plan in place. And that's going to take time, but it's not going to take four years. I'm asking officials to do this work thoroughly, and I also want that data to remain consistent, so it's a live dashboard, so we truly understand what's at risk, so that we can ensure a future for these. But too many of our organisations are vulnerable. That lack of strategy is a disgrace, I think, and I am not happy that I am inheriting this situation.

Thank you, Cabinet Minister, for your statement today.

Gweinidog, I never thought I'd find the day that you and I would agree on quite a lot of what's in your statement. I do agree with the need for investment in sport, because we do know that that is a key part of the prevention agenda, but warm words in a statement are cheap if they don't actually mean how much money is going to come through. So, I'm actually interested, Gweinidog, in how much of a proportion of the NHS budget have you and the Minister for finance and the Minister for health and care identified to move into the sports budget. Because we've heard a lot today about money being moved, but I think a lot of the sports organisations listening to today's proceedings would like to know exactly what proportion that's going to be. If you look at Scotland, for example, which is something I've heard you and the Minister for care reference during hustings, to match that, that's £80 million-worth of investment that Scotland put into sport. Is it your ambition to match that, and when can the sport sector in Wales see that inward investment into their sector here in Cymru?

Thank you, James. Certainly, there's common ground here and I'm keen to work with every Member who has an interest here. Because you will have seen that when I mentioned this initially there was criticism and I think a lack of understanding from people about the importance of sport, not just in terms of prevention, but as treatment, as effective medical treatment, and that's for both physical and mental health.

In terms of the exact figures and how we will do this, this is a completely new way of working for Government, and what I can give you the assurance of is that there is an acknowledgement across Government of the importance of this, that we are ensuing that those discussions are now taking place within those first 100 days and we will update the Senedd as we can. Because the key thing here is making sure that we are having better outcomes for people, putting people at the centre of this. And actually, I would hope that we can make the case together that sport is not just a 'nice to have', but that, actually, it does transform lives, it saves lives, and an investment in the grass roots is something, if we can get that acknowledgment as treatment, that's not there currently. And that's the shift I'm asking all of you to support me with, so that we can make that case and see how we achieve it.

I don't think I'm supposed to be talking on this.

Thank you, Llywydd. Minister, congratulations and thank you for your statement. I'd like to declare an interest. I've spent many years staging major events, major international events, so this is something very close to my heart.

While noting the audits, the consultations and the challenging environment that we find in Wales, the importance of culture to Wales has been emphasised, along with Plaid Cymru's commitment to increased spending on culture, arts and sport. Equally, the public may wish to understand what measurable outcomes were achieved during the last Senedd, when Plaid Cymru was a party to the co-operation agreement, and, due to this, I was surprised at the stated inheritance of a lack of data and a lack of understanding. What performance measures will be used during this Senedd to determine whether increased spending is translated into greater participation, stronger engagement and better value for money? We have a simple ask. Our simple ask is: how do we measure success? Thank you.

Well, thank you for those points, and the answer I would give is that that's exactly the work we are doing, so that you have transparency, that I'm held to account, but also, hopefully, we see progress in these areas. Let me be clear: we have not held this portfolio for 15 years. Alun Ffred Jones was there. We saw investment, which led to St Fagans becoming Art Fund Museum of the Year, and a number of important initiatives that supported local museums, local libraries and archives. So, let's be very clear here: we share the frustrations that many Members will have about the lack of progress and the cuts that were made.

I think it's very clear here that the work is starting. I've been honest with you about the data that I have inherited, because I want to be held to account, so that we can track this. So, that's the work that's currently being done, and I will update the Senedd accordingly so that you can see the measures that are being put in place and how we will progress this work.

Thank you very much. As was mentioned in the statement, we are fortunate in Wales, over the next few years, to be hosting major sporting events such as the UEFA European Under-19 Championship in north Wales this summer, the Tour de France next year and Euro 2028. This gives us an opportunity to increase participation among children and young people across the country. Maximising these forthcoming opportunities could have a major impact on our communities through supporting grass-roots sports clubs and helping with the Government's preventative health agenda. How will the Government press ahead with ensuring an increase in participation on the back of these major events and ensure all of the benefits that can stem from that for our communities? Thank you.

I thank the Member for that important question. Members who were here in the sixth Senedd will be aware that this was an issue that I was very interested in and I questioned the last Government on it, because it was frustrating for me. There was a focus on attracting major sporting events, but no thought was given as to why and to what purpose. And that would be the question that I will always ask myself before we put our names forward in order to allow this to happen: why? It's not just to say, 'Well, we've had the Tour de France here in Wales.' That means nothing unless there is a real legacy and that is part of the planning from the outset.

I have an opportunity now to put a Plaid Cymru stamp on Euro 2028, and that work is progressing. In terms of the Tour de France, my first challenge for officials was to ask, 'What's the legacy for the people of Wales? How many more people will cycle?' Because I don't want us just to attract visitors to come to Wales to cycle, I want to know what the change is within our own communities, because, representing the Valleys, I know how challenging the fact of not having cycle paths is and all the hills we have and so on. If you don't have an electric bike then you don't have much hope, and that's according to someone who lives on the top of a hill in the Valleys.

But we have to ask that question, 'Why?' every time. That's my commitment in terms of major sporting events: they are for a purpose, there has to be a legacy attached to them, or I can't stand here justifying spending tens of millions of pounds sometimes on something that happens in the blink of an eye and leaves nothing behind.